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Hypothetical - we keep the #4 pick
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:03 pm
Just because there’s absolutely nothing going on right now, I thought it would be fun to sort of relive this past draft.
We had tons of discussion on who the pick should be at #4, lots of differing opinions. Say you know what you know now, and we had kept the #4 pick, with hindsight who would you have wanted?
Deandre Hunter - 12.3 pts, 4.5 rbs, 1.8 asts, 41% fg, 8.6 PER
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Darius Garland - 12.3 pts, 1.9 rbs, 3.9 asts, 40.1% fg, 8.5 PER
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Jarrett Culver - 9.2 pts, 3.4 rbs, 1.7 asts, 40.4% fg, 9.6 PER
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Coby White - 13.2 pts, 3.5 rbs, 2.7 asts, 39.4% fg, 11.9 PER
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We had tons of discussion on who the pick should be at #4, lots of differing opinions. Say you know what you know now, and we had kept the #4 pick, with hindsight who would you have wanted?
Deandre Hunter - 12.3 pts, 4.5 rbs, 1.8 asts, 41% fg, 8.6 PER
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Darius Garland - 12.3 pts, 1.9 rbs, 3.9 asts, 40.1% fg, 8.5 PER
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Jarrett Culver - 9.2 pts, 3.4 rbs, 1.7 asts, 40.4% fg, 9.6 PER
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Coby White - 13.2 pts, 3.5 rbs, 2.7 asts, 39.4% fg, 11.9 PER
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:06 pm to CP3forMVP
Culver would have been nice. He started playing well the last 15 game or so before the virus stalled the season and I know Griff was high on him.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:08 pm to Macintosh504
Im not gonna write off Hayes of course, but I just dont know how he fits next to Zion. Maybe it does though, we’ll see.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:15 pm to Ryan3232
He’s too raw to determine that. I know he’s been working on his shot tho. I’m just curious if Griff and company are willing to wait another 2-3 years for Jaxson to maybe reach his potential and finally start becoming a quality starter. Especially if there’s guys they like on the trade block that they can get now like a Myles Turner
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:36 pm to Macintosh504
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Culver would have been nice. He started playing well the last 15 game or so before the virus stalled the season and I know Griff was high on him.
White is an interesting case as well. His last 15 he was going for 20 pts, 4 boards, and 5 asts on 43% shooting.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:11 pm to CP3forMVP
Coby White and its not even a discussion to me.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:40 pm to Ryan3232
If hayes can be a solid pick and pop player (think Ibaka) that could add a very scary dimension to our offense. BUT our woes are not in the form of scoring the basketball its getting timely stops.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:00 pm to CP3forMVP
Knowing what I know now?
Tyler Herro hands down
Tyler Herro hands down
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:11 pm to Macintosh504
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He’s too raw to determine that. I know he’s been working on his shot tho. I’m just curious if Griff and company are willing to wait another 2-3 years for Jaxson to maybe reach his potential and finally start becoming a quality starter. Especially if there’s guys they like on the trade block that they can get now like a Myles Turner
Wait, we got way more out of Hayes this season than anyone predicted yet somehow you are now “wondering” about Hayes???
Lol.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:52 pm to Soggymoss
Yeah I would say Herro or maybe Brandon Clarke. All would be better options than what is in the OP.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 10:23 pm to Soggymoss
quote:vastly overrated on this board
Tyler Herro hands down
Posted on 4/16/20 at 10:25 pm to Hester Carries
quote:yeah his game is still incredibly raw. He’s not good enough to be a starting center in this league. Just because he did better than expected this year (tho he did start declining as the season went on) doesn’t mean he’s guaranteed to continue the upward trend.
Wait, we got way more out of Hayes this season than anyone predicted yet somehow you are now “wondering” about Hayes???
And I like how you put “wondering” in quotations when I never once even said that word
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:47 am to Macintosh504
Hayes’ defensive awareness later on in the season was light years better than it was when he was playing bigger minutes.
Oddly enough, I think his success with the Pelicans depends more on Zion developing more of his game than Hayes learning a jumper or improving his handle. He just needs to be a rim runner, rebounder, and elite rim protector. His fit with Zion depends on Zion having elite handles and a jumper that people at least have to respect.
Would it be nice if Hayes could shoot from outside? Of course. But I think he should focus on becoming great at the things he’s currently good at before he focuses on becoming good at something he can’t do.
Oddly enough, I think his success with the Pelicans depends more on Zion developing more of his game than Hayes learning a jumper or improving his handle. He just needs to be a rim runner, rebounder, and elite rim protector. His fit with Zion depends on Zion having elite handles and a jumper that people at least have to respect.
Would it be nice if Hayes could shoot from outside? Of course. But I think he should focus on becoming great at the things he’s currently good at before he focuses on becoming good at something he can’t do.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:15 am to CP3forMVP
Brandon Clarke easily.
While Zion was destroying records for a college players effeciency rating, Brandon Clarke was quietly finishing second behind him, which puts him with the 2nd highest PER for a college season since 2010.
He shot 40% from 3, and is an animal on both ends of the court. Would have been the perfect running mate down low with Zion.
While Zion was destroying records for a college players effeciency rating, Brandon Clarke was quietly finishing second behind him, which puts him with the 2nd highest PER for a college season since 2010.
He shot 40% from 3, and is an animal on both ends of the court. Would have been the perfect running mate down low with Zion.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:24 am to Macintosh504
He's a young JJ, and we've seen how good of a fit JJ is with Zion.
There's better players, but the fit with Zion wouldn't be any better than Herro would be
There's better players, but the fit with Zion wouldn't be any better than Herro would be
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:45 am to CP3forMVP
i was a big hunter guy and i don't think that would have changed with hindsight. he was solid as a rookie with stretch 4/3-D potential
i think my #2 would have been culver, not as much a BPA but just a scheme/team fit. he'd pair well next to jrue. we'd have 2 combo guards capable of handling/defending
i think my #2 would have been culver, not as much a BPA but just a scheme/team fit. he'd pair well next to jrue. we'd have 2 combo guards capable of handling/defending
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:20 am to TeddyPadillac
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Brandon Clarke easily.
While Zion was destroying records for a college players effeciency rating, Brandon Clarke was quietly finishing second behind him, which puts him with the 2nd highest PER for a college season since 2010.
He shot 40% from 3, and is an animal on both ends of the court. Would have been the perfect running mate down low with Zion.
at the time i wanted clarke at 4 and then certainly at 8.
but with most of season played out i now know that he has a recurring thigh injury.
he missed two weeks at the end.
i would go with white if i had to do it over.
i dont do oft injured or recurring injury with a high pick.
reach with your 46th or the 24th first.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 10:19 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:58 pm to CP3forMVP
I think we will regret not staying put and picking up White, esp if NAW doesn’t pan out. He looks the best outside of the big 3. But yiu never know.
I think Hayes will be fine, just may take 2-3 more years for his body to develop. But he’s a very promising prospect.
I think Hayes will be fine, just may take 2-3 more years for his body to develop. But he’s a very promising prospect.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:09 pm to CP3forMVP
Question can't be answered for another few years. Despite the fact that 90% of this forum were hyping Hayes and NAW based on their summer league performances. Neither of them are sure things at this point.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 3:15 pm to Macintosh504
He is, but he’s a better fit for this team than any of the others mentioned.
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