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Herb Jones signed, 3 year deal

Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:45 pm
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Source: The Pelicans are signing second-round pick Herb Jones to a three-year deal. The third year of the company contract is a team option.

Full contract
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Jones has shown the potential to be a high-level defender during his time in Las Vegas.

Trey Murphy III called him "Straitjacket" last night because of the way he locks people up on defense.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:50 pm to
So, how many slots is does that make it that are locked in so far?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:53 pm to
15
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:56 pm to
Wenyen is non-guaranteed though
Posted by nicj4
Guadeloupe
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:57 pm to
Griffin signing 3 year deal just for good Summer League matches...

Like Adams's contract, extending Herb now is too fast
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:01 pm to
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extending Herb now is too fast
A 3 year minimum deal?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14341 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:01 pm to
It's 2 years with team option on 3rd year 99.9% for the minimum...

Stop overreacting
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:02 pm to
Clearly, you’re someone that has intimate knowledge of the NBA CBA.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:03 pm to
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Griffin signing 3 year deal just for good Summer League matches...

Like Adams's contract, extending Herb now is too fast

what a terrible take lol
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:05 pm to
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Griffin signing 3 year deal just for good Summer League matches...

Like Adams's contract, extending Herb now is too fast


He's a 2nd round pick, he may not even be making $1 million per year. And the length doesn't matter, what matters are the team options/guarantees.

Giving out a short deal, like just a 1 year deal, is bad for the team. What if he's much better than expected? On a 1 year deal you have no mechanism other than cap space to resign him after the 1 year deal expires.

If it's a 2 year deal you have Early Bird rights at the end of it and can pay up to MLE money on a new deal if he blows up. 3 years and you get full Bird Rights. I suspect the 3rd year here will be an option year and Herb will be an RFA that they'll resign, or not, after 2 seasons.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:18 pm to
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I suspect the 3rd year here will be an option year
Yeah, its team option
Posted by nicj4
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:21 pm to
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He's a 2nd round pick

Luguentz Dort was undrafted. okc waited 29 games in the regular season where Dort was good to be able to extend him.

Duncan Robinson was undrafted also. Miami waited regular season and PO in the bubble where Robinson was good to be able to extend him.

Griffin must be one of rare GMs to extend a player while he has yet to prove anything in the regular season or in Playoffs

I am not against the extension. Just that it's too fast
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:28 pm to
You know there's a difference between signing a draft pick and an extension?
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:29 pm to
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Luguentz Dort was undrafted. okc waited 29 games in the regular season where Dort was good to be able to extend him.

Duncan Robinson was undrafted also. Miami waited regular season and PO in the bubble where Robinson was good to be able to extend him.

Griffin must be one of rare GMs to extend a player while he has yet to prove anything in the regular season or in Playoffs I am not against the extension. Just that it's too fast


You’re comparing undrafted guys to someone who was drafted, apples to oranges. What do you recommend? Not signing Herb Jones?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:31 pm to
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He's a 2nd round pick, he may not even be making $1 million per year. And the length doesn't matter, what matters are the team options/guarantees.




the length matters also in that it means he's being signed using the MLE b/c you can't give out a 3 year minimum deal, you have to use the MLE to give out that third year if the salary is the minimum, which is what we did with Naji too.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:31 pm to
If Griff had this guy's knowhow we could've had Herb playing all season for free.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:31 pm to
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You know there's a difference between signing a draft pick and an extension?


Clearly he doesn’t
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:33 pm to
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You’re comparing undrafted guys to someone who was drafted, apples to oranges.



not really, undrafted guys aren't really any different than 2nd round picks. neither are guaranteed to make the team, or ever get a contract.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14911 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:37 pm to
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not really, undrafted guys aren't really any different than 2nd round picks. neither are guaranteed to make the team, or ever get a contract.


You’re right, I was more so talking about two way deals like we have signed undrafted guys too, and actually giving a contract to a 2nd rounder the franchise clearly likes.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
1846 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:46 pm to
Whatever you guys think about Herb right now, we're all gonna luv him in a coupla years, and wonder how in the world he didn't go earlier, in the 1st round. Hide & watch, it'll happen.
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