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re: Has reality set in that we did virtually nothing this offseason?

Posted on 9/28/23 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16532 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 1:52 pm to
The biggest move we could have made and did make was revamping the medical staff.

Albeit a small sample size but when CJ/BI/Zion were on the court we were the best team in the league by far.

Getting Zion fully bought in and finally taking training seriously was the biggest move we could have made unless we traded for Giannis.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 1:53 pm to
Lol wanted Jokic? Whos being dramatic now?

Anyone with a half brain would understand the lack of moves this offseason is puzzling due to the same health issues that have popped up to our stars year after year. But I guess you think a success season is getting to play-in because our roster is set 1-11. Lol why would you think our roster is set 1-11? You’re telling me theres no way they can upgrade? Thats laughable.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 1:57 pm to
“Albeit a small sample size but when CJ/BI/Zion were on the court we were the best team in the league by far.”

- very small sample size and that league is vastly different now.

- suns added durant and beal
- warriors added cp3
- lakers added free agents and had midseason trade
- bucks added lillard
- celtics porzinigis

I could on and on but living off a sample size against a league of teams who have vastly overhauled rosters now makes no sense.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16532 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 1:58 pm to
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We at the very least should have added shooting depth. We didn’t do that. People say we shouldn’t make any moves until we know Zion can be healthy but he’s not gonna stay healthy being quadruple teamed in the paint. No one is gonna be threatened by any of our shooters except Trey (out 2 months at least) and maybe CJ. I worry Z and BI are constantly going to be taking tough shots night in a night out

We need to get BI taking 6-7 3’s a night and stop trying all midrange, he’s another “shooter” we have but he just refuses to shoot them at the pace we need him to.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:04 pm to
Yet every offseason we expect that to change. Its who he is man.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28570 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Zeller is more beneficial than Hayes.


i respectfully disagree, and i don't like Hayes.

quote:

And has the same value as Billy


Again, i respectfully disagree. Billy is a much much better offensive player. They both suck on defense. Both provide nice off the court stuff.


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Y’all are being dramatic about that move being a “waste” or that we could have done better. Were you there when we talked about all the centers going to teams NOT named us?


Wouldn't it have been nice to send Kira and a 2nd or two to OKC in a S&T for Dario Saric, who ended up just signing with GSW for $2M?

Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22802 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:09 pm to
With Z and BI healthy, we were the #1 seed in the west. The wheels fell off when Z got hurt. Being a small market team, I understand the thought process of “less take another run with what we have” approach.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16532 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Yet every offseason we expect that to change. Its who he is man.

No its not, because we’ve seen him do it in a Pels uniform.

He just needs to do it again.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16532 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:12 pm to
You keep bringing up the tax and needing 2nd round picks to move Kira to get below it, but fail to forget we would be 12 million more into the tax if we didn’t move Graham using those 2nds.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3877 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:15 pm to
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The biggest move we could have made and did make was revamping the medical staff.

Albeit a small sample size but when CJ/BI/Zion were on the court we were the best team in the league by far.

Getting Zion fully bought in and finally taking training seriously was the biggest move we could have made unless we traded for Giannis.




Have they even said what they did to revamp the medical team other than move Aaron Nelson?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16532 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:17 pm to
Not yet, I’m sure we will hear about it Monday on Media Day
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:18 pm to
You mean under Van Gundy the guy he hated playing under. He hasn’t done it under Willie who lets him play his game. Yes, BI can do it- he doesn’t want to- its who he is.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:20 pm to
But Griffin was the one who signed Graham to begin with. I mean it was his failed signing that made him waste his 2nd round picks.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16532 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:21 pm to
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You mean under Van Gundy the guy he hated playing under. He hasn’t done it under Willie who lets him play his game. Yes, BI can do it- he doesn’t want to- its who he is.

He loved playing for Gentry and he shot 6.2 that year, so what’s your dumbass explanation now?
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
20338 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:21 pm to
Run it back …. If this fails , which is a good possibility. Fire Griff , Willie
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:26 pm to
Lol how about he hasn’t done it in the last 2 years even though we desperately needed it. Thats my dumbass explanation for you. Lol no reason for name calling. We said the same crap last year- he doesn’t do it or doesn’t want to. I don’t understand why we expect someone to do something they dont want to do? This isnt some young guy in his second year. By the way this brings up a bigger point how successful were we as a team with him shooting those six 3s a game? Whats your dumbass explanation for that?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28570 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:37 pm to
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You keep bringing up the tax and needing 2nd round picks to move Kira to get below it, but fail to forget we would be 12 million more into the tax if we didn’t move Graham using those 2nds.



forget?
forget one of the dumbest moves our idiot GM has made, using a 1st round pick to sign a free agent when he didn't have to, then having to use 4 2nd round picks to unload him b/c you overpaid for him?
No i didn't forget that.

That is why we are in the situation we are in right now, not having any chance at making a move this offseason.
Maybe next time don't sign, sorry, trade a 1st round pick to sign an undersized PG who plays off the ball and can't defend for 4/$47M that shoots 34% from 3 as your "shooter". Meanwhile Seth Curry is making $8M/yr over the last 4 years, is just as shitty on defense, and is a career 44% 3 point shooter, not 37%.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62433 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:40 pm to
What they did was keep their powder dry because there weren't any good moves to be had if you weren't going to pull the trigger on Scoot. I've seen some of the Pels Twitterati kicking around getting in on Jrue to Boston trades if that were to happen.

Robert Williams and Sam Hauser
for
Nance, Kira, and a 1st.

If you believe in William's health, that solves a lot of problems for the Pels. I guess Kira and the 1st would be going to Portland in this scenario.

Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3877 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Robert Williams and Sam Hauser
for
Nance, Kira, and a 1st.

If you believe in William's health, that solves a lot of problems for the Pels. I guess Kira and the 1st would be going to Portland in this scenario.


I would do that in a heartbeat. Robert williams is injury prone but i mean so is nance. Hauser is a great shooter that would help us a lot more than kira
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Wouldn't it have been nice to send Kira and a 2nd or two to OKC in a S&T for Dario Saric, who ended up just signing with GSW for $2M?

Saric last season:

14.1 mpg
6.4 ppg
3.6 rpg


Zeller last season:

14.5 mpg
6.5 ppg
4.3 rpg


What exact does Saric do that is better than Zeller? Even if look at their careers, and career per 36 to normalize, they're the same mediocre 3rd big dude, wondering what you see different in both.

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