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re: Giannis Antetokounmpo could force his way out of Milwaukee

Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:14 pm to
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One of the tweets I saw claims Miami and Brooklyn are on his short list. So cliche it feels like made up clickbait.


Giannis leaving Dame to go to Miami, leaving Dame in Milwaukee would be all time lulz
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:17 pm to
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Ehh I don't know about all of that. I'd take Sengun straight up over Zion right now.


Didn't they get better last year when Sengun was out?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29817 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:21 pm to
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. I'd take Sengun straight up over Zion right now.


ok.


Sengun might be the worst defensive center in the league, and he's actually trying unlike Zion.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:22 pm to
Nets: Giannis

Bucks: Ingram, CJ, JRE, Theis, DFS, Cam Thomas, picks from Nets, Pels give Bucks their own picks back

Pels: Dame, Claxton

Call it in December 15th Griff

New starting 5:
Dame, Murray, Herb/Trey, Zion, Claxton

That’s the stuff wet dreams are made of
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29817 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:30 pm to
Don't think that's legal. Bucks are a 2nd apron team. They can only trade one person at a time, and can only take back less salary than they send out. Can't aggregate players into a trade, so they can't trade Giannis and someone else.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:35 pm to
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Don't think that's legal. Bucks are a 2nd apron team. They can only trade one person at a time, and can only take back less salary than they send out. Can't aggregate players into a trade, so they can't trade Giannis and someone else.

That trade actually saves the Bucks money so they’re sending out more than they take back.

Also the trade aggregation rules only applies to teams sending out minimum salary players. Knicks just exploited that rule in the KAT trade by signing the last 3 guys they had bird rights to with a contract that paid $1 over the minimum to bypass the rule despite being a 2nd apron team.

On our end we add money to our tax bill, but we stay below the 1st apron so we are still legal. We would have to sign 2 new minimum salary players to replace Theis and JRE contracts, but I think that’s still doable while staying under the apron.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 3:44 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29817 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Also the trade aggregation rules only applies to teams sending out minimum salary players. Knicks just exploited that rule in the KAT trade by signing the last 3 guys they had bird rights to with a contract that paid $1 over the minimum to bypass the rule despite being a 2nd apron team.



The Knicks weren't a 2nd apron team before or after the trade. They were a 1st apron team, and were hard capped. They couldn't aggregate minimum salary players in a trade, and they got around it by signing guys to minimum salaries + $1 to get around it.

The Bucks are a 2nd apron team. They cannot trade Giannis and another player in the same trade b/c 2nd apron teams cannot aggregate players in a trade regardless of their salary.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 4:14 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11225 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:24 pm to
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Sengun might be the worst defensive center in the league, and he's actually trying unlike Zion.


Zion is out shape, injury prone, doesn't shoot 3s, and is a lazy defender that doesn't give a shite. I'd rather the guy that tries and plays a premium position..
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:56 pm to
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They cannot trade Giannis and another player in the same trade b/c 2nd apron teams cannot aggregate players in a trade regardless of their salary.

From everything I read that only applies when you’re trying to acquire a single player.

For instance Phoenix cannot send Nurk and Little for a single player at a higher salary, but they send Nurk and Little out for multiple players at lower salaries in return.
Posted by DLBalla
Member since Jul 2018
223 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:23 pm to
Teddy is right here. 2nd apron teams can't aggregate (combine) players in any trade.

And if they do trade one player, then the return salaries have to be less than or equal to the outgoing salary.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:11 am to
Either way easy to workaround as Nets have plenty of salary to trade.

They could work trade 1 as:
Bucks: Simmons, Picks
Nets: Giannis

Then trade 2 as:
Nets: Ingram, CJ
Bucks: Cam Johnson, Bojan, JRE, Theis, picks
Pels: Dame, Claxton

They can aquire multiple players just can’t send out multiple, so do it in twi trades
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13899 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:06 pm to
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This pick might convey to Atlanta. The Dejounte Murray trade is looking worse and worse.


I thought the ‘25 pick is already going to Portland for CJ unless it hits top 4.

This was the cost of what Griff did to get Graham.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13899 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:09 pm to
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Nets: Giannis Bucks: Ingram, CJ, JRE, Theis, DFS, Cam Thomas, picks from Nets, Pels give Bucks their own picks back Pels: Dame, Claxton Call it in December 15th Griff New starting 5: Dame, Murray, Herb/Trey, Zion, Claxton That’s the stuff wet dreams are made of


This might be one of the worst trades I have ever seen on here, and that’s saying a lot, b/c there have been horrible ones posted.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7777 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 1:19 pm to
Lillard is almost done. He's in the same boat as CJ. Still effective scorer but toast as a defender. The wheels will come completely off soon.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20687 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:56 pm to
Give them Zion and their picks back. Sure the Bucks would jump at that trade.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8008 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:00 am to
Please let this happen! Our picks from them would turn from dogshit to gold!
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