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re: Game Thread: Squadron @ Cavs (6:30)

Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50205 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:24 pm to
That Brandon Boston shine is wearing off and landing on Reeves.

I think that Karlo looks pretty good, but timid. Maybe he doesn't have the green light to shoot since he's been camping out around the rim on offense.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12940 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:26 pm to
Boston is a complimentary player. He was never going to look good without a star to play off of.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:26 pm to
It was like 6 years ago, but there were reports at the time that Gayle’s preference was for Gentry to remain as coach.

And yes like I said, he could have negotiated it and fired Gentry, but we had way bigger fish to fry without adding a coaching search to it. Hell we only had one scout at the time if that lets you know anything about how bad of a state the front office was in.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29817 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:27 pm to
It’s incredibly stupid that we’ve been giving minutes to Nowell and Cain instead of the guy we made a trade for in the 2nd round to draft in Reaves.
Posted by tigerinjac
Member since Dec 2012
754 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:27 pm to
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She can fire a coaching staff and GM. She's the owner supposedly.

Have you seen the talent the coach currently has to work with?


Yes I've seen it for 4 yrs and his talent is not at coaching. lol!
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:29 pm to
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It was like 6 years ago, but there were reports at the time that Gayle’s preference was for Gentry to remain as coach.


Interesting I never read she wanted him to stay but I’ll take your word for it.

Regardless, the SVG thing was very odd and never understood the whole supporting Hart or BI over your coach- not that SVG was some amazing coach but its the principle of the matter. Once players know they can control firings of coaches- the respect/fear factor for the head coach quickly disappears.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:31 pm to
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It’s incredibly stupid that we’ve been giving minutes to Nowell and Cain instead of the guy we made a trade for in the 2nd round to draft in Reaves.


Glad Reaves is having a decent game but he hasn’t shot well behind the arc and his defense is REALLY BAD. And in his great game we’re down by 30 plus.
Posted by IHitthaLONGBALL
Member since Jul 2024
191 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:32 pm to
Y’all are better men than me. I can’t make myself watch the Pels right now. Just sporadically checking scores nightly puts a bad taste in my mouth.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33912 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:34 pm to
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Glad Reaves is having a decent game but he hasn’t shot well behind the arc and his defense is REALLY BAD. And in his great game we’re down by 30 plus.


Reeves will end up being on the pels for a couple years. He is going to carve out a role.

13-24 and you are shitting on him. Weird.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 8:36 pm
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21190 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:35 pm to
Just think about the poor season ticket holders. Pelicans should offer some type of partial refund for the sorry shite show
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:38 pm to
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Reeves will end up being on the pels for a couple years. He is going to carve out a role.


I don’t think so. You’re letting your eyes fool you with this game. He cant guard at all and hes small. As a shooter hes barely shooting 30% from 3. Maybe he hangs around in the league but hes not a rotation guy.

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13-24 and you are shitting on him. Weird.


Im not shitting on him. Hes having a good game while we’re down 30- its just perspective. Hes nice end of bench guy on some NBA teams. Thats it.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33912 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:44 pm to
I've been saying reeves will make himself a spot on the team.

Has nothing to do with this game.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:45 pm to
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I've been saying reeves will make himself a spot on the team. Has nothing to do with this game.


Yeah he has at the end of the bench. So you were correct.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5569 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:36 pm to
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Once players know they can control firings of coaches- the respect/fear factor for the head coach quickly disappears.


Of all my gripes about griff’s unbuild of the pelicans, the coaching moves probably are the biggest. Would love to see what the right coach could have done here.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4356 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:04 pm to
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Boston is a complimentary player. He was never going to look good without a star to play off of.


Yeah he looked terrible but who else was supposed to handle to ball.

I still really like Boston. This game shouldn’t change anything. He’s a good bench piece, who is way over taxed in a situation like tonight
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4356 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:06 pm to
I just don’t get why Missi only got 19 minutes. Maybe cuz he was already questionable going into the game? But if that’s not the reason then he should have played 30 mins
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13899 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:36 am to
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He has drafted well, found hidden gems, and made good trades


Has he tho? The team we played tonight had far less assets than Griff and has surpassed us in their rebuild.

Actually the core of that team could have all been added by Griff. I even argued for three of the players to be added a few times on here.

Garland, Allen when he was originally traded by the Nets, and Spyder when traded from the Jazz.

Griff could have easily added these three together. They are what 16-1 now? And he’d still have must of the war chest. Or more than he has now.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 1:41 am
Posted by Silverfoxx
Member since Mar 2016
1122 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 2:50 am to
Trey Jemerson that's why
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11225 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 5:37 am to
This is my fear with Green. Let's say we let him go after we get blown out by the Warriors. Then we elevate Borrego. We are still 4-13 with most players out. We are supposed to have everybody, but Zion, back by the beginning of next year (2025). That's 14 games. Even if we go .500 over that stretch, that 11-20. To get to 45 wins, to make the play-in, we'd have to go 34-17 the rest of the year. I just don't see that happening. But if it does, that's a pretty amazing turnaround. So then Borrego gets another year (new contract), we probably extend Ingram and we run it all back. It's all the same, with minor tweaks, for next year. That probably all still happens if we get to 36 wins.

I'd rather let Green keep shitting the bed. Then clean house, followed by a full rebuild. That includes a new owner, GM, coach, training staff, and mostly all new players. That doesn't happen if we have any success..
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:32 am to
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That probably all still happens if we get to 36 wins.


I don’t think it does. Being ten games under .500 is going to be hard to be labeled as progress to the point we run it all back. Due to tax issues, BI and/or CJ is more than likely gone by the deadline or after this year. Zion may be back but this current iteration will likely be different.
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