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Posted on 6/26/16 at 2:05 am to irvchilichill1
I could see them making an offer for Mike Muscala (F/C - ATL) Like Bazemore, his hustle stats were pretty good in the playoffs and he was drafted by Ferry. He can shoot the 3 and challenge shooters out on the perimeter. He is also 24 so good age to mature with AD. He hasn't broken out and may amount to nothing, but will come relatively cheap and can be a bench F/C with upside taking up some of Ryno's minutes.
ETA - scratch that, maybe next year. Saw him as RFA on NBA.com, but did not see the team option.
ETA - scratch that, maybe next year. Saw him as RFA on NBA.com, but did not see the team option.
This post was edited on 6/26/16 at 2:24 am
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:26 pm to NOFOX
From Tom Ziller today on Honest Free Agent Signings
LINK
Think he's pretty fair here both with needs and potential gets. Would be leery of Jeff Green, but the other 4 are solid targets (Lin especially if they dump Evans).
And CBSsports has a top 80 FA list
LINK
They list NO as a good fit with these guys, in descending order:
DeRozan
JR Smith
Biyombo
Marvin Williams
Festus Ezeli
Evan Fournier (never google him)
Jeremy Lin
Meyers Leonard
Timofey Mozgov
Wesley Johnson
LINK
quote:
PELICANS
REACH: The Pelicans drafted Buddy Hield, so Bradley Beal becomes a reach in multiple ways: the odds New Orleans will want to invest a hundred million dollars in an injury-prone two-guard after the Eric Gordon experience are lower and lower every day. But damn does Anthony Davis need some shooters like Beal. Hopefully Hield can provide that. New Orleans also needs wing talent, so we'll list Chandler Parsons and Harrison Barnes as reaches, the former because Florida beckons and the latter because restricted status makes it difficult. Nicolas Batum will likewise have better options out there.
MATCH: I kind of love the idea of Marvin Williams landing with the Pelicans. New Orleans needs quantity this summer, and Williams fills a couple of holes. I'm deeply concerned his 40-percent clip from long-range was a fluke, but a team like the Pels has to roll the dice a little. I'm also wary of GM Dell Demps, so I have some concern New Orleans is a candidate for the massive Evan Turner contract offer.
SAFETY: Jared Dudley, Jeff Green and Jeremy Lin feel like get-able options for the Pelicans who, again, have 1,000 holes to fill.
Think he's pretty fair here both with needs and potential gets. Would be leery of Jeff Green, but the other 4 are solid targets (Lin especially if they dump Evans).
And CBSsports has a top 80 FA list
LINK
quote:
This list accounts for skill, athleticism, role, versatility, age, experience, attitude and projected value
They list NO as a good fit with these guys, in descending order:
DeRozan
JR Smith
Biyombo
Marvin Williams
Festus Ezeli
Evan Fournier (never google him)
Jeremy Lin
Meyers Leonard
Timofey Mozgov
Wesley Johnson
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:36 pm to corndeaux
quote:
Biyombo
Festus Ezeli
Meyers Leonard
Timofey Mozgov
So we're going to spend $12-$15 per on Asik's replacement while he's still on the roster? Are there any low end center FAs who's teams might be giving up on them too early like Biyombo/Seraphin/Withey were?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:54 pm to TigerinATL
step 1: nobody
step 2: save the money, tank part two, get another draft pick in a stacked class sign a max player in next years FA to go with davis hield and next years pick.
step 3: profit
step 2: save the money, tank part two, get another draft pick in a stacked class sign a max player in next years FA to go with davis hield and next years pick.
step 3: profit
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:00 pm to TigerinATL
TBW also mentioned this recently but Taj Gibson is likely going to be moved.
CHI needs a PG so would they do a Taj for Tyreke swap?
He'd be a very nice back up 4 that can play small ball 5 and would bring defense/rebounding/toughness which the bench needs.
You could let ryno walk and just replace shooting with 2 wings in FA.
CHI needs a PG so would they do a Taj for Tyreke swap?
He'd be a very nice back up 4 that can play small ball 5 and would bring defense/rebounding/toughness which the bench needs.
You could let ryno walk and just replace shooting with 2 wings in FA.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:01 pm to TigerinATL
I think the idea is that most outside observers believe Asik is pretty much done as a rotation player.
I'd be fine with them spending money to get an Asik upgrade now, but they have to make sure they find a (at least one) wing who can play the 4 next to Davis.
Low end guys:
Mozgov
Tarik Black
Dwayne Dedmon
Robert Sacre
Miles Plumlee
Cole Alrdrich
Jordan Hill
Jeff Ayres
Maresse Speights
I'd be fine with them spending money to get an Asik upgrade now, but they have to make sure they find a (at least one) wing who can play the 4 next to Davis.
Low end guys:
Mozgov
Tarik Black
Dwayne Dedmon
Robert Sacre
Miles Plumlee
Cole Alrdrich
Jordan Hill
Jeff Ayres
Maresse Speights
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:03 pm to Machine
You do know there's an 84 mil salary floor right?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:05 pm to corndeaux
I think the real problem is the Pels have a large payroll and a ton of holes throughout their roster without many on hand solutions. Not sure how you prioritize the problem areas.
Seems like there is depth for wings and bigs on the FA market. But this is just such an unknown year for FA. No way to really plan for the unknown
Seems like there is depth for wings and bigs on the FA market. But this is just such an unknown year for FA. No way to really plan for the unknown
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:09 pm to corndeaux
2 adequate wings would help immensely
I think they can get by anywhere else
I think they can get by anywhere else
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:12 pm to corndeaux
quote:
I'm deeply concerned his 40-percent clip from long-range was a fluke,
Last 5 years 3P%
40.2%
35.8%
35.9%
32.5%
38.9%
Not that much of a fluke if you're getting open looks. And this year he took 4.7 3's per game, which was a good bit more than he'd ever done in the past. Charlotte moves the ball around well, which i think is why you keep hearing from guys like Batum, Marvin and Lin that they want to stay there and resign.
I would really like to get Marvin Williams to fill in for the Ryno role sort of.
I would be ok with a fairly middle of the road offseason of:
Marvin Williams
Solomon Hill
Garrett Temple
Kevin Seraphin
Jrue/Reke/Frazier
QPon/Hield/Temple
Marvin/Hill/Dante
AD/Ajinca
Seraphin/Asik
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:19 pm to LosLobos111
Yeah. That seems like the most likely plan for the team.
Get a couple of wings, try to bring back Anderson over the cap line, and get into the playoffs.
Get a couple of wings, try to bring back Anderson over the cap line, and get into the playoffs.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:37 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
Not that much of a fluke if you're getting open looks
Relax chief. The point isn't that he can't shoot, clearly he's a good enough 3PT shooter. More that no one should expect him, at age 30, to be a 40% 3PT (i.e. elite) shooter yearly.
Think of it this way- Eric Gordon hit 45% two years ago. Was that a fluke? Yes, he likely will never hit that high again. He is still a very good 3PT shooter.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:44 pm to corndeaux
quote:
Think of it this way- Eric Gordon hit 45% two years ago. Was that a fluke? Yes, he likely will never hit that high again. He is still a very good 3PT shooter.
Was it a fluke? QPon, Ryno, and Cole all had career years shooting the 3 as well, and we actually won a lot of games, and had a good offense.
Generally if you move the ball around well and create open 3's, especially from the top of the key and the corner, you get guys shooting good percentages. When you start Asik and Gee most of the year, it's kind of difficult to create open looks for guys not named Asik and Gee.
I'm sure if Marvin played for us last year, he would have shot under 35%, yet had he played two years ago, he would have been over 40%.
The only fluke about it is the offense he was in, not his age. Get the guy open look and he will shoot well enough.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:58 pm to corndeaux
So apparently on the Dunc'd on Podcast, he had guys getting the following offers:
Eric Gordon 3/$36M
Tim Frazier 3/$15M
James Ennis 3/$12M
I mean...lolwut?
I don't think anyone is prepared for this offseason (I stole those numbers from PR, I haven't listened yet).
Eric Gordon 3/$36M
Tim Frazier 3/$15M
James Ennis 3/$12M
I mean...lolwut?
I don't think anyone is prepared for this offseason (I stole those numbers from PR, I haven't listened yet).
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
Generally if you move the ball around well and create open 3's, especially from the top of the key and the corner, you get guys shooting good percentages
Was Norris Cole struggling to get open looks playing off LeBron, Wade, and Bosh in Miami? Anderson had his worst year from 3 two years ago, when Gordon/QPon/Cole were nailing open 3s because "the offense." Pondexter has been all over the shooting map in the NBA. But if you want to believe he's a 43% shooter from 3, have at it.
They generated roughly the same number open looks for Gordon this year, but he hit them at a worse rate. That's Gee and Asik's fault?
quote:
I'm sure if Marvin played for us last year, he would have shot under 35%, yet had he played two years ago, he would have been over 40%.
okay. So the Pels just need to have a really awesome offense and guys will shoot over 40% from 3? What if I told you they had an awesome offense BECAUSE guys shot well above their career norms? Again, you're losing your mind because a national writer said that he was worried that an 11 year vet (who's shot better than 35.8% all of twice in his career) hitting 40% from 3 was a fluke. Nothing to be upset about, but I guess it's summer. Nothing else to do around here.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:05 pm to Fun Bunch
Frazier signed something last year, and if we exercise him for this year, it's like a $1.2M cap hit.
I'm sure it's the same for Ennis.
I think whoever this Dun'd is doesn't know what he's talking about.
I"m not going to say EG can't get that, but it sure as shite better not be from us. And if he can get that, then Crabbe and Bazemore should fetch near the max.
I'm sure it's the same for Ennis.
I think whoever this Dun'd is doesn't know what he's talking about.
I"m not going to say EG can't get that, but it sure as shite better not be from us. And if he can get that, then Crabbe and Bazemore should fetch near the max.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:06 pm to Fun Bunch
Gordon will get some money, the Frazier/Ennis deals are worrisome. Can the Pels afford that?
Saw someone (maybe Voulgaris) say contracts should be reported as cap %, rather than raw $. People will flip out about total money.
Saw someone (maybe Voulgaris) say contracts should be reported as cap %, rather than raw $. People will flip out about total money.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:10 pm to TeddyPadillac
Dude, Nate Duncan is the wonkiest NBA writer around.
They literally have 2 2hour+ podcasts with him, Pelton, and other NBA writers doing a mock NBA FA/summer. He's gone through the cap situation heading into the summer of almost every NBA team (sadly no Pels yet).
Gordon may get less than that (may get more) but that guess is as good as anyone else's
They literally have 2 2hour+ podcasts with him, Pelton, and other NBA writers doing a mock NBA FA/summer. He's gone through the cap situation heading into the summer of almost every NBA team (sadly no Pels yet).
Gordon may get less than that (may get more) but that guess is as good as anyone else's
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