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re: floated story top 16 playoff. pels are in hunt
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:49 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:49 am to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:If the Pels were the 8 seed and that happened, this board would flip their shite in reverse.
If they’re going to go straight to the playoffs they should use a CFP/BCS approach.
If they go straight to the playoffs, they should do so by record, the same way they've always done it.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:29 pm to shel311
quote:
Money trumps all, the players won't really have much of a choice.
Depends on the players and how much they'll actually get paid, I guess. But after reading Lillard's comments I get why some wouldn't think its worth it. If you don't have anything to play for, might as well get head start on your off-season training and not have to be separated from your family to do so.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:34 pm to CelticDog
Going into playoffs screws the teams whom's schedules were front loaded with the NBA best (The Pelicans) and actually helps the teams who schedules were jokes in the beginning (aka the Lakers). So in other words, of course they are going to do this.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:17 pm to Cap Crunch
quote:Well the most important players overwhelmingly want to play as I understand it, and not playing the regular season and fulfilling that RSN contract will lean a lot less money in the form of lower future salary caps.
Depends on the players and how much they'll actually get paid, I guess
quote:Don't get me wrong, I do agree with this.
But after reading Lillard's comments I get why some wouldn't think its worth it.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:46 pm to shel311
I’m all in for the 20 team group stage instead of a first round. That would be bad arse.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:52 pm to NOFOX
quote:
I’m all in for the 20 team group stage instead of a first round. That would be bad arse.
so... play each team in the group twice (home & home) and top 2 teams advance to the "knockout stage" (best of 7 series)
Am I weird for thinking a healthy Pelicans team could get out of that group 2
1-1 vs. Heat (lost w/o Zion; won w/ Zion)
1-3 vs. Rockets (0-2 w/o Zion; 1-1 w/ Zion)
0-1 vs. Magic (Game was pre-Zion; Game 2 was supposed to be 3/29)
0-4 vs. Lakers (as much as I hate LeBitch, A(d)hole, and that franchise... they'd obviously win that group)
You'd have to hope like hell that 5-3 in group would be enough to get a 2-seed (sweep MIA & ORL, split w/ HOU) to get out of the group... but that would be in interesting set-up
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:49 pm to CelticDog
You jump straight into the playoffs, everyone is rusty and cold. You need two or three games just to tune everyone up. I say, the teams who were within X games of seeding get to play in. You got the playoff strong teams and playoff weak teams.
Strongs play strongs in both conferences for three games or however many. They can rest or do whatever. But get everyone in some semblance of a rhythm.
Meanwhile, the playoff weak teams play games that have more at stake. Playing to get seeding locked down and then just play.
There's no one size fits all solution. Someone is going to hate this. Some team is going to LOVE it.
...also it would behoove the NBA to get Zion and Ja Morant involved. They're must-see basketball.
Strongs play strongs in both conferences for three games or however many. They can rest or do whatever. But get everyone in some semblance of a rhythm.
Meanwhile, the playoff weak teams play games that have more at stake. Playing to get seeding locked down and then just play.
There's no one size fits all solution. Someone is going to hate this. Some team is going to LOVE it.
...also it would behoove the NBA to get Zion and Ja Morant involved. They're must-see basketball.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:41 pm to rt3
quote:Probably, we're pretty clearly the 4th best team in that group.
Am I weird for thinking a healthy Pelicans team could get out of that group 2
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:12 pm to NOFOX
i love your 20 team groups of five.
no bad teams. gsw can go golfing.
the wanna be's have something to play for.
its a lot like world cup in that any victory is a great win.
2 advance.
since we are inventing this, make round two best two out of three. round 3 best of 5.
finals 4 of 7.
no bad teams. gsw can go golfing.
the wanna be's have something to play for.
its a lot like world cup in that any victory is a great win.
2 advance.
since we are inventing this, make round two best two out of three. round 3 best of 5.
finals 4 of 7.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:22 pm to shel311
quote:
Probably, we're pretty clearly the 4th best team in that group.
you really don't think Zion would make a huge difference in potential match-ups against the Heat & Magic? Zion made a difference against the Heat... and didn't get the chance to see if he'd make a difference against the Magic
I've already said you're hoping for a split with the Rockets (who we beat with Zion)... so I'm saying they are better but you just need to steal the game in the Blender
just like I said... you're hoping that 5-3 in round robin would be good enough to get you to the 2nd round
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:34 am to rt3
quote:
just need to steal the game in the Blender
the tournament will be in a sealed space.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:02 am to Eman5805
quote:
There's no one size fits all solution. Someone is going to hate this. Some team is going to LOVE it.
...also it would behoove the NBA to get Zion and Ja Morant involved. They're must-see basketball.
the 20 team, world cup format with random draws from the tiers solves all problems.
dame lilliard gets to play real games.
pels fans who saw zion come on.late get to see him in an intense playoff atmosphere for the group stage.
i.love it.
be sure to post widely about it. public opinion matters.
fb is our friend now.
its so obviously the answer.
the draw. the analysis of who is in the group of death.
#2 of group1 plays #1 of group2.
the kids will love it.
the reason it may not happen is the tie breaker.
3 teams tie for 2nd.
then what?
most goals.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 9:03 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:18 am to rt3
quote:A difference? Sure. Make us better than the Heat? Nah. Now that doesn't mean we can't beat them in a small 6 game sample size, but they would be the favorite over us. And in beating them, that just makes us the 3rd best team, still not coming out of the group.
you really don't think Zion would make a huge difference in potential match-ups against the Heat & Magic?
We were 10-9 with Zion this season. Miami was 41-24 on the full season.
quote:There is no game in the blender.
I've already said you're hoping for a split with the Rockets (who we beat with Zion)... so I'm saying they are better but you just need to steal the game in the Blender
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:25 am to CelticDog
quote:
the reason it may not happen is the tie breaker.
3 teams tie for 2nd.
That's real simple.
Who had the better record before all of this? They advance.
Of all the 20 teams, the only ones that have the same record right now are the Pacers/Sixers, Thunder/Rockets, Pelicans/Kings. Don't put them in the same group and the problem is solved.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:29 am to shel311
quote:
Are you aware of the contract issue with the regional sports networks?
I'm aware that - from a general perspective - the odds of those contracts having out-clauses that take pandemics/disasters into account are fairly high.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 11:30 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:40 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
only ones that have the same record right now are the Pacers/Sixers, Thunder/Rockets, Pelicans/Kings. Don't put them in the same group and the problem is solved.
not seeding.
after group play.
one is 5-3
3 teams are 4-4
one is 3-5
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:46 pm to CelticDog
That doesn’t change what I said. It helps legitimize the regular season that has been played thus far. The team with the better record has earned it over 60 whatever games to win the tiebreaker.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:47 pm to rt3
quote:yeah I think Favors matches up well against bam. I think its a tie between us and the heat at third best
you really don't think Zion would make a huge difference in potential match-ups against the Heat & Magic?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:14 pm to Macintosh504
I personally think that the Pels are definitely better than the Heat. The computers at 538 agree with me.
They ranked the teams' fully-healthy playoff strength this way:
Clippers
Lakers
76ers
Bucks
Rockets
Celtics
Nuggets
Raptors
Mavericks
Pelicans
Thunder
Jazz
Pacers
Blazers
Nets
Magic
Heat
So, yeah, they rank the Pelicans as the 10th-best team and the Heat as the 17th-best playoff team, if everyone were at full strength. (Obviously, KD isn't going to play for the Nets, Bogdanovic just had surgery and won't play for the Jazz, etc.)
LINK
They ranked the teams' fully-healthy playoff strength this way:
Clippers
Lakers
76ers
Bucks
Rockets
Celtics
Nuggets
Raptors
Mavericks
Pelicans
Thunder
Jazz
Pacers
Blazers
Nets
Magic
Heat
So, yeah, they rank the Pelicans as the 10th-best team and the Heat as the 17th-best playoff team, if everyone were at full strength. (Obviously, KD isn't going to play for the Nets, Bogdanovic just had surgery and won't play for the Jazz, etc.)
LINK
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 10:15 pm
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