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re: floated story top 16 playoff. pels are in hunt

Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:49 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:49 am to
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If they’re going to go straight to the playoffs they should use a CFP/BCS approach.

If the Pels were the 8 seed and that happened, this board would flip their shite in reverse.

If they go straight to the playoffs, they should do so by record, the same way they've always done it.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:56 am to
He’s trolling
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Money trumps all, the players won't really have much of a choice.


Depends on the players and how much they'll actually get paid, I guess. But after reading Lillard's comments I get why some wouldn't think its worth it. If you don't have anything to play for, might as well get head start on your off-season training and not have to be separated from your family to do so.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:34 pm to
Going into playoffs screws the teams whom's schedules were front loaded with the NBA best (The Pelicans) and actually helps the teams who schedules were jokes in the beginning (aka the Lakers). So in other words, of course they are going to do this.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110824 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Depends on the players and how much they'll actually get paid, I guess
Well the most important players overwhelmingly want to play as I understand it, and not playing the regular season and fulfilling that RSN contract will lean a lot less money in the form of lower future salary caps.

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But after reading Lillard's comments I get why some wouldn't think its worth it.
Don't get me wrong, I do agree with this.

This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 9:39 pm
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:46 pm to
I’m all in for the 20 team group stage instead of a first round. That would be bad arse.

This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:52 pm to
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I’m all in for the 20 team group stage instead of a first round. That would be bad arse.



so... play each team in the group twice (home & home) and top 2 teams advance to the "knockout stage" (best of 7 series)

Am I weird for thinking a healthy Pelicans team could get out of that group 2

1-1 vs. Heat (lost w/o Zion; won w/ Zion)
1-3 vs. Rockets (0-2 w/o Zion; 1-1 w/ Zion)
0-1 vs. Magic (Game was pre-Zion; Game 2 was supposed to be 3/29)
0-4 vs. Lakers (as much as I hate LeBitch, A(d)hole, and that franchise... they'd obviously win that group)

You'd have to hope like hell that 5-3 in group would be enough to get a 2-seed (sweep MIA & ORL, split w/ HOU) to get out of the group... but that would be in interesting set-up
Posted by Eman5805
West Bank
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:49 pm to
You jump straight into the playoffs, everyone is rusty and cold. You need two or three games just to tune everyone up. I say, the teams who were within X games of seeding get to play in. You got the playoff strong teams and playoff weak teams.

Strongs play strongs in both conferences for three games or however many. They can rest or do whatever. But get everyone in some semblance of a rhythm.

Meanwhile, the playoff weak teams play games that have more at stake. Playing to get seeding locked down and then just play.

There's no one size fits all solution. Someone is going to hate this. Some team is going to LOVE it.

...also it would behoove the NBA to get Zion and Ja Morant involved. They're must-see basketball.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110824 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:41 pm to
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Am I weird for thinking a healthy Pelicans team could get out of that group 2
Probably, we're pretty clearly the 4th best team in that group.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:12 pm to
i love your 20 team groups of five.

no bad teams. gsw can go golfing.

the wanna be's have something to play for.
its a lot like world cup in that any victory is a great win.

2 advance.

since we are inventing this, make round two best two out of three. round 3 best of 5.
finals 4 of 7.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141129 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:22 pm to
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Probably, we're pretty clearly the 4th best team in that group.

you really don't think Zion would make a huge difference in potential match-ups against the Heat & Magic? Zion made a difference against the Heat... and didn't get the chance to see if he'd make a difference against the Magic

I've already said you're hoping for a split with the Rockets (who we beat with Zion)... so I'm saying they are better but you just need to steal the game in the Blender

just like I said... you're hoping that 5-3 in round robin would be good enough to get you to the 2nd round
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:34 am to
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just need to steal the game in the Blender


the tournament will be in a sealed space.

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:02 am to
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There's no one size fits all solution. Someone is going to hate this. Some team is going to LOVE it.

...also it would behoove the NBA to get Zion and Ja Morant involved. They're must-see basketball.


the 20 team, world cup format with random draws from the tiers solves all problems.
dame lilliard gets to play real games.
pels fans who saw zion come on.late get to see him in an intense playoff atmosphere for the group stage.

i.love it.

be sure to post widely about it. public opinion matters.

fb is our friend now.

its so obviously the answer.

the draw. the analysis of who is in the group of death.

#2 of group1 plays #1 of group2.

the kids will love it.

the reason it may not happen is the tie breaker.
3 teams tie for 2nd.
then what?
most goals.

This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 9:03 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110824 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:18 am to
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you really don't think Zion would make a huge difference in potential match-ups against the Heat & Magic?
A difference? Sure. Make us better than the Heat? Nah. Now that doesn't mean we can't beat them in a small 6 game sample size, but they would be the favorite over us. And in beating them, that just makes us the 3rd best team, still not coming out of the group.


We were 10-9 with Zion this season. Miami was 41-24 on the full season.


quote:

I've already said you're hoping for a split with the Rockets (who we beat with Zion)... so I'm saying they are better but you just need to steal the game in the Blender

There is no game in the blender.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 9:19 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25515 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:25 am to
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the reason it may not happen is the tie breaker.
3 teams tie for 2nd.


That's real simple.
Who had the better record before all of this? They advance.
Of all the 20 teams, the only ones that have the same record right now are the Pacers/Sixers, Thunder/Rockets, Pelicans/Kings. Don't put them in the same group and the problem is solved.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:29 am to
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Are you aware of the contract issue with the regional sports networks?

I'm aware that - from a general perspective - the odds of those contracts having out-clauses that take pandemics/disasters into account are fairly high.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 11:30 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:40 pm to
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 only ones that have the same record right now are the Pacers/Sixers, Thunder/Rockets, Pelicans/Kings. Don't put them in the same group and the problem is solved.


not seeding.

after group play.
one is 5-3
3 teams are 4-4
one is 3-5

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25515 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:46 pm to
That doesn’t change what I said. It helps legitimize the regular season that has been played thus far. The team with the better record has earned it over 60 whatever games to win the tiebreaker.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52605 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:47 pm to
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you really don't think Zion would make a huge difference in potential match-ups against the Heat & Magic?
yeah I think Favors matches up well against bam. I think its a tie between us and the heat at third best
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17835 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:14 pm to
I personally think that the Pels are definitely better than the Heat. The computers at 538 agree with me.
They ranked the teams' fully-healthy playoff strength this way:

Clippers
Lakers
76ers
Bucks
Rockets
Celtics
Nuggets
Raptors
Mavericks
Pelicans
Thunder
Jazz
Pacers
Blazers
Nets
Magic
Heat

So, yeah, they rank the Pelicans as the 10th-best team and the Heat as the 17th-best playoff team, if everyone were at full strength. (Obviously, KD isn't going to play for the Nets, Bogdanovic just had surgery and won't play for the Jazz, etc.)

LINK
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 10:15 pm
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