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re: Fire Dell and AG, trade AD, and completely reset.

Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:21 pm to
+/- is not a good gauge to judge how someone is playing.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:39 pm to
The problem with this team and has been for the past god damn decade is injuries. What would our record be if we had everyone healthy for every game.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19251 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 1:06 pm to
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I’m as frustrated as any, but I’m not sure that losing a close game last night without two starters on SEGABABA is really the time call to blow it up.
it’s not just one game this team isn’t going anywhere, AD is 100% leaving this BS organization for not putting the talent around him. Strike now while while the fire is hot. Only problem I see is Demps will frick it up by not getting enough in return
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
3673 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 1:30 pm to
Same song from you retards after every loss

Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20302 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 1:34 pm to
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it’s not just one game this team isn’t going anywhere, AD is 100% leaving this BS organization for not putting the talent around him. Strike now while while the fire is hot. Only problem I see is Demps will frick it up by not getting enough in return



This. AD is guaranteed to demand a trade. You'd want someone who's not inept to be at the helm when his trade value is highest, and Dell will end up fricking everything up.

Face it - you all know it.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
3586 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 1:48 pm to
I want to see what this team can be with a small forward BUT with that being said.. If it is not enough and we can somehow manage to get a kuzma/hart package with 2 first and get a small forward for Mirotic we may be able to work with it. If we can somehow get Kemba would this be a better lineup? I think maybe.
Kemba/ Payton
Jrue/ Hart
Otto porter type
Randle/ Morris
Kuzma
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34267 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Same song from you retards after every loss
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
3586 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 2:00 pm to
Essentially we trade for a small forward this year and see how far we can go. If it is not enough and we could land someone like Kemba in free agency, wouldn't it be worth it to gain the skills from Kemba at point knowing we would get tons of front court value from an AD trade?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 3:53 pm to
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+/- is not a good gauge to judge how someone is playing.
So there's nothing you can glean from a 23.4 point differential?

You think that it's just totally random that AD has the biggest differential on the team? Or that the starters have solid differentials and the bench players have terrible differentials?



You can say it's not a good judge of how someone is playing, but it's certainly a good judgment to tell me how a team plays when that someone is on the court vs off the court. And the numbers prove that the team is more than just fine when AD on the court so the real issue is when he's not in the game(meaning bench play).
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 3:55 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 3:56 pm to
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Kemba/ Payton
Jrue/ Hart
Otto porter type
Randle/ Morris
Kuzma
That team IMO has a much smaller chance of getting out of the 1st round of the playoffs like we did last season.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14267 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 4:08 pm to
What lineups is he playing in? (Surrounded by starters or bench players?)

What lineups is he getting most of his + against? (Starters or bench players)

Alot of bench players will have a negative +/- because they are surrounded by other bench players, you just have to hope they can keep it close to give your starters enough rest.

Look at Brandon Ingram, hes a -5 or so with LBJ on the court, but a +15 or some shite without him, does that mean Ingram is a bad player?
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8240 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:23 pm to
I like to check in on threads like this so that I can get a handle on who are the Pelisons and who are the Pelitards.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:02 pm to
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The problem is that Dell has already done the damage and I am not sure the team can recover to keep AD on board unless he pulls a rabbit out of a hat


And in that respect it really feels like deja vu right now.

Still plenty of time to correct things but as is the trend feels eerily familiar to the period right before CP3 departed.

A subtly frustrated star, a front office that had stayed on far too long and deeply mismanaged their roster, allowing themselves to be pushed into a corner, forced toward one last desperation push on the eve of a contract season to gather a few pieces to maybe convince him to stay with an organization he would never choose in a neutral situation thanks to all the mismanagement, fans working through the stages of grief “maybe money and a Trevor Ariza will keep him!!!.”

And the irony being the one that led us down this path is the guy we originally brought in to keep CP3 from leaving after the prior regime mismanaged his tenure. Now the cycle repeats.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

What lineups is he playing in? (Surrounded by starters or bench players?)

What lineups is he getting most of his + against? (Starters or bench players)

Alot of bench players will have a negative +/- because they are surrounded by other bench players, you just have to hope they can keep it close to give your starters enough rest.

Look at Brandon Ingram, hes a -5 or so with LBJ on the court, but a +15 or some shite without him, does that mean Ingram is a bad player?
Well., AD leads the league in minutes played per game, so that kinda kills your point.

For 37.5 minutes per game, we thoroughly outplay our opponent. For the other 10.5 minutes, we get absolutely destroyed. What would you point to as the reason for our mediocre record?
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20302 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:23 pm to
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I like to check in on threads like this so that I can get a handle on who are the Pelisons and who are the Pelitards.


Right. Because any fan who gets irritated watching wasted talent, while the team hovers at the 500 mark just doesn't know basketball.
Posted by Stxpel
Member since Oct 2018
118 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:50 pm to
Been reading my reddit posts huh? Lol said exactly this.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
411 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:56 pm to
IDKY I KEEP COMING AND READING THIS BS...I really try to avoid responding to these stupid threads but sometime I can't let it go. when Payton comes back healthy and slides everyone back into there right spots/roles, this team while be back to same post boogie team of last year. and dell has done a great job since ajinca/osik offseason. not to mention he kicked arse in correcting both signings before the end of them.

and the Dallas flockin mavericks!!!! lmaoooooooo
y'all really think smith and doncic or gonna lead them anywhere hahahaha
everyone knows dallas can't bring in top tier FA talent
until time breaks up warriors, it really don't matter anyway

all this team needs is a healthy Payton and a solid wing addition at trade deadline to be back in western conference final four
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 6:59 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:17 pm to
You have 43 damn posts...
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
411 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:30 pm to
And u have two damn lifetimes worth lol
But what's ur point?
I've gone thru few different "Bradley...." Names if ur point is worth proving wrong
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:42 pm to
Obviously your posts are important and your time limited. This is fully exhibited by your inability to fully type out the word “your”.
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