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ESPN writer: Most NBA execs don't believe that Ingram is worth a max contract
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:50 am
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What happens with New Orleans Pelicans All-Star Brandon Ingram in restricted free agency is more divisive. Most executives believe Ingram isn't worth a max contract, which makes his future difficult to predict.
"I wonder if [Pelicans executive vice president of basketball operations David Griffin] will hardball [Ingram] and say, 'Get an offer,'" one executive asked. "Where is he getting it from?"
Another exec went the other way, suggesting Griffin could offer Ingram a full max to ensure he couldn't take a short-term deal elsewhere, cementing him as the No. 2 option alongside Zion Williamson.
"Securing the extra year and not allowing him to sign a two-plus-one with someone is worth it," the executive said. "Is the few million less you might save really worth the extra year?"
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:55 am to GOP_Tiger
If we had a chance of getting someone better in FA I’d agree. But we probably don’t
A player is only worth what someone will pay them. At least a couple other small market teams would give him the max. He’s a max player for us
A player is only worth what someone will pay them. At least a couple other small market teams would give him the max. He’s a max player for us
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 9:57 am
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:57 am to GOP_Tiger
Obviously things change, but which teams have a Max offer slot and who would be interested.
I think we will give him the max but it would be interesting to see if we could save a little
I think we will give him the max but it would be interesting to see if we could save a little
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:58 am to GOP_Tiger
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to ensure he couldn't take a short-term deal elsewhere
Well that's dumb. He's an RFA.
We would just match it.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:58 am to T1gerWonder
How is a top 10 scoring SF, who shoots 40% from 3 and plays good defense not worth a max contract in today's NBA?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:00 am to GOP_Tiger
A 22 year old sf shooting almost 40% from 3 that can get his shot anywhere on the court is worth a max to a small market team, and anyone saying anything else is just trying to get New Orleans to frick it up.
Those execs are just pandering because they already know.
Those execs are just pandering because they already know.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:05 am to GOP_Tiger
The question you have to ask is "How much money saved per year is worth possibly souring a relationship with a player?"
Ingram has to absolutely believe that he is a max guy. Maybe no one else will offer it and you can save a few million. Is it worth it over 2 million a year? 5 million?
Its a hard question.
I think you just offer the max and get it over with.
Ingram has to absolutely believe that he is a max guy. Maybe no one else will offer it and you can save a few million. Is it worth it over 2 million a year? 5 million?
Its a hard question.
I think you just offer the max and get it over with.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 10:06 am
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:05 am to whatiknowsofar
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trying to get New Orleans to frick it up.
That’s exactly what those “execs” are doing. Just like NFL GMs anonymously dog players they like before the draft to get them to fall to their pick.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:06 am to Fun Bunch
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to ensure he couldn't take a short-term deal elsewhere
Well that's dumb. He's an RFA.
We would just match it.
That’s basically what they’re saying. He could sign a 2 year deal elsewhere. The Pels can match but them they’d be in a tough spot in 2 years.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:12 am to GOP_Tiger
The dumbass narrative is fricking stupid. I’m sure all the quote were taken out of context.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
If you look at past interviews, Ingram absolutely believes he is a max guy. Barring tragic injuries/significant drop-off in production I don't see much downside to it. Zion will still be on his rookie deal by the time Ingram's contract is winding down.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:21 am to GOP_Tiger
Probably only asked Knicks and Cavs executives
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:22 am to Fun Bunch
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I think you just offer the max and get it over with.
This. If not, you're gonna frick up the locker room.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:26 am to GOP_Tiger
Funnily enough, if there were no max contracts, he wouldnt get as much as what the current max is.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:41 am to GOP_Tiger
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"Where is he getting it from?"
The Knicks, Cavs, Pistons, and Hornets would all make max offers if the Pels lowball.
Guaranteed the anonymous exec works for one of those teams
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:47 am to GOP_Tiger
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Most NBA Execs
I don’t think this is that outlandish. Is it possible that 16 GMs wouldn’t pay Ingram a max? Sure, but it doesn’t matter. It only takes one that is willing to this summer. Is there one team that is willing to offer Ingram the max? Absolutely.
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How is a top 10 scoring SF, who shoots 40% from 3 and plays good defense not worth a max contract in today's NBA?
Idk if I’d say he plays “good” defense. He definitely tries hard and has plenty of room to grow into that, but right now he still has trouble moving his feet, lacks the strength to get through screens, and can get pushed around. I do think that he’ll grow into a better defender though.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:53 am to GOP_Tiger
In a league where Allen fricking Crabbe ia making 18.5 million a year, Brandon Ingram is DEF a max player.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:59 am to GOP_Tiger
Those execs are saying that hoping Griffin reads it and second guesses himself, then they can swoop in.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:13 am to GOP_Tiger
If you are an all-star SF, especially in he West, you are a max player. This opinion piece is ludicruos.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:21 am to rondo
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In a league where Allen fricking Crabbe ia making 18.5 million a year, Brandon Ingram is DEF a max player.
Especially in this barren FA class
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