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Dumars accomplishments as Pistons GM

Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:41 pm




Griff did better…
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 4:43 pm
Posted by TeamCKennedy
Southern Illinois Baws
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 5:43 pm to
Ouch
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12950 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 5:51 pm to
We're drafting Maluach in the top 3 confirmed!!!
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55981 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 5:54 pm to
Darker times ahead?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17443 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:07 pm to
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Darker times ahead?

Oh you just thought we were in dark times
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3328 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:33 pm to
It’s hard to be optimistic. Only optimistic thing I would be about is that he lets the GM (Bryson Graham) run things, fire Willie and hire a good coach.
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
3262 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:44 pm to
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It’s hard to be optimistic. Only optimistic thing I would be about is that he lets the GM (Bryson Graham) run things, fire Willie and hire a good coach.


That is where I am at. I won't ever give up on the team (just like the Saints) I really hope Dumars is more of the other BS role and not the Basketball part. Lol.. but if he fires Willie it would help.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4362 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:48 pm to
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We're drafting Maluach in the top 3 confirmed!!!


I would bet money that’s who Dumars would draft if we don’t get 1 or 2
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8209 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:19 pm to
I come in peace. Why are they leaving out Pistons title teams? I mean Dumars built those Pistons teams. Should’ve won in 05. Won in 04.

Traded for Ben Wallace
Traded Rip Hamilton
Signed Billups
Signed Corliss
Traded for Sheed

Problem is that was 20 years ago. Wasn’t able to keep it going. Think they made 6 straight ECF.

(Ducks for cover)
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55981 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:10 am to
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Traded for Ben Wallace Traded Rip Hamilton Signed Billups Signed Corliss Traded for Sheed
small market teams only have success building its foundation through the draft. FAs dont wanna come here and we don’t have assets like that anymore to make trades. Dumars has been a bad drafter.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11233 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:37 am to
He put together a good run. He tried to extend it and took some risks that did not work out. He never tore it down to rebuild. Looking at Pistons message boards, it looks like the owner passed during that period and there was some other circumstances that contributed. But he definitely made mistakes. Did he learn from that, is the question.

I've said in other threads, I don't think he would be that involved in player movement. Benson needs someone to run the business portion of the franchise, run day to day. I believe that Dumars would take on more of that role, even better that he has deep relationships with the league and local/national businesses. That side has seemed to slip. But the draft, player acquisition and development, trades, coaching staff.. all that stuff should be managed by the GM. I'll be more interested to see who he finds for that role..
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128127 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:22 am to
Basically for 7-8 years he SUCKED. Like total disaster and failed miserably.

Even during the 2000-2006 period where they started to win he made so many many horrid moves
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1063 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:28 am to
This is the problem here. You can't focus only on the bad 2nd half of his Pistons run and ignore the great first half. Nor can you just tout his championship run and forget how bad things got at the end. Both happened and he is responsible for both.

He built a champion and a perennial playoff contender, and when that team aged out he was unable to replace it.

Which Joe Dumars will we get? Who knows?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128127 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:32 am to
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You can't focus only on the bad 2nd half of his Pistons run and ignore the great first half.


You absolutely can, because the first part was TWENTY YEARS AGO.

He made horrible moves during that run too that got covered up by some truly lucky moves.

He never got another full time job. Eleven years went by without him getting another full time exec role.

Do you know how much the game has changed since that? The guy hasn't won a thing since KATRINA. The Hornets were practicing around exotic animal shows at that time.

Analytics basically didn't exist.

The league couldn't be more different
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17443 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8209 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:45 am to
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Even during the 2000-2006 period where they started to win he made so many many horrid moves


This is BS. You can hate the guy not doing anything in 20+ yrs (valid), but they were good then.
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