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Draft Prospects Thread
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:33 am
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:33 am
Assuming we keep the pick, who do yall like at #7?
I really like Knueppel, Maluach and Tre Johnson. 1-2 of them should be there at 7.
Knueppel is interesting, he’s not your normal white shooter. He’s got real on ball skills. I think he’s got untapped playmaking potential that he didn’t get to show at Duke. He was very impressive in the ACC tournament after Flagg went down.
Maluach had similar measurements and athletic tests to Gobert at the combine. I know a lot of pels fans don’t want to take another center but I’m still not convinced Missi is a starting center in the NBA. Great pick at 21 though. We were one of the worst rebounding teams last year and had horrible rim protection metrics. That’s where Maluach comes in. He’s huge and can be a defensive anchor in the league plus he has untapped offensive potential. I like the idea of adding him to Missi and locking down the center position for years to come. Similar to what Dallas did with Lively and Gafford.
Tre Johnson is a bucket and had really good measurements at the combine at 6’6 with a 6’10 wingspan. He’s a little light but unlike Hawkins he has a frame that can add weight. Putting him next to Trey would open up a ton of space for Zion.
I’m not a fan of Fears, he’s a small guard that’s struggled to shoot. I may end up wrong on him but I just don’t like betting on small guards.
I’m out on Queen, his athletic numbers were horrific at the combine and he’s a smaller center. I think his defense is gonna be bad which is hard to build around at the center position.
I really like Knueppel, Maluach and Tre Johnson. 1-2 of them should be there at 7.
Knueppel is interesting, he’s not your normal white shooter. He’s got real on ball skills. I think he’s got untapped playmaking potential that he didn’t get to show at Duke. He was very impressive in the ACC tournament after Flagg went down.
Maluach had similar measurements and athletic tests to Gobert at the combine. I know a lot of pels fans don’t want to take another center but I’m still not convinced Missi is a starting center in the NBA. Great pick at 21 though. We were one of the worst rebounding teams last year and had horrible rim protection metrics. That’s where Maluach comes in. He’s huge and can be a defensive anchor in the league plus he has untapped offensive potential. I like the idea of adding him to Missi and locking down the center position for years to come. Similar to what Dallas did with Lively and Gafford.
Tre Johnson is a bucket and had really good measurements at the combine at 6’6 with a 6’10 wingspan. He’s a little light but unlike Hawkins he has a frame that can add weight. Putting him next to Trey would open up a ton of space for Zion.
I’m not a fan of Fears, he’s a small guard that’s struggled to shoot. I may end up wrong on him but I just don’t like betting on small guards.
I’m out on Queen, his athletic numbers were horrific at the combine and he’s a smaller center. I think his defense is gonna be bad which is hard to build around at the center position.
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Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:09 am to Balsamic_duck
I like all those same prospects, but I am more bullish on Fears. He performed at such a high level as a freshman. He’s not really undersized, he measured 6’2 1/2” barefoot, which is fine for a PG, but physically he plays bigger than his 180 lb - he’s very strong. His ability to attack the rim will translate on day 1. Watching Oklahoma, I always felt like he was making big play after big play, at 18 years old, I think he reclassified so he’s young. He’s a guy I would bet on, the biggest swing with him will be his shooting, which is a totally valid concern.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:54 am to rondonumbanine
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like all those same prospects, but I am more bullish on Fears. He performed at such a high level as a freshman. He’s not really undersized, he measured 6’2 1/2” barefoot, which is fine for a PG, but physically he plays bigger than his 180 lb - he’s very strong. His ability to attack the rim will translate on day 1. Watching Oklahoma, I always felt like he was making big play after big play, at 18 years old, I think he reclassified so he’s young. He’s a guy I would bet on, the biggest swing with him will be his shooting, which is a totally valid concern.
Yeah he’s probably the highest upside guy at 7 after the guys I mentioned.
Who would be a good NBA comp for him. He’s around the same size as maxey but maxey is stronger and longer. I think Fears needs to add a lot of strength at his height to be successful.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:28 pm to Balsamic_duck
He does need to add strength, but he’s got a decent frame and he’s super young, plus he already plays bigger than his size. While the shooting and athleticism aren’t the same, he has that Donovan Mitchell skill set where he’s got a a super tight handle that he uses to navigate through bodies in the paint plus using his body weight really well, where you feel like he can always get to the rim.
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Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:01 pm to Balsamic_duck
the idea of having Knueppel and Trey on the wings for Zion to kick out to, if the defense collapses on him when he drives to the lane definitely gets me excited...
Tre Johnson has a high ceiling, probably the highest of any of the guys that will be available when we pick, but he REALLY needs to hit the weight room... he is not NBA ready from a physical standpoint
Fears, from a maturity and leadership angle, is by far the best choice... but he's not a very good shooter, and he'll be going against the best of the best every night, so he won't be able to get to his spots quite as easily at the next level... very boom or bust type of pick
i'm totally out on taking another C... i'm totally cool with rolling with Missi, Matkovic, and Olynyk
Tre Johnson has a high ceiling, probably the highest of any of the guys that will be available when we pick, but he REALLY needs to hit the weight room... he is not NBA ready from a physical standpoint
Fears, from a maturity and leadership angle, is by far the best choice... but he's not a very good shooter, and he'll be going against the best of the best every night, so he won't be able to get to his spots quite as easily at the next level... very boom or bust type of pick
i'm totally out on taking another C... i'm totally cool with rolling with Missi, Matkovic, and Olynyk
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:04 pm to chRxis
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i'm totally out on taking another C... i'm totally cool with rolling with Missi, Matkovic, and Olynyk
The NBA is getting bigger every year. That would be one of if not the worst center rotations in the league. I think center is still a massive hole for this team
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:06 pm to chRxis
Olynyk is injury prone and he's 34 years old. Can't rely on him staying healthy. Missi and Matkovic has nice potential but they didn't do well protecting the paint last season. Glimpses are nice but there were still a lot of bad possessions between the two.
Whatever they do, they need to figure out the frontcourt because whatever they have now is still not enough.
Whatever they do, they need to figure out the frontcourt because whatever they have now is still not enough.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:08 pm to supe12sta12z
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Whatever they do, they need to figure out the frontcourt because whatever they have now is still not enough.
Won't matter until Big Lazy is sent away.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:13 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:doesn’t matter. You draft best available. Not need.
I think center is still a massive hole for this team
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:25 pm to Macintosh
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doesn’t matter. You draft best available. Not need.
And with as many holes as this team has, BPA is kind of a necessity.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:45 pm to teke184
The day after the lottery I had it:
Knueppel
Maluach
Johnson
Boyles
Queen
Fears
I may move Queen up a good bit though. More I watch him more I like him.
I'm going to keep banging the drum for Nique Clifford. I wouldn't even mind trading back to the end/just outside of the lottery to take him.
Knueppel
Maluach
Johnson
Boyles
Queen
Fears
I may move Queen up a good bit though. More I watch him more I like him.
I'm going to keep banging the drum for Nique Clifford. I wouldn't even mind trading back to the end/just outside of the lottery to take him.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:49 pm to CP3forMVP
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I'm going to keep banging the drum for Nique Clifford. I wouldn't even mind trading back to the end/just outside of the lottery to take him.
If you like Clifford, you’ll love Cedric coward. He’s flying up draft boards. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go in the teens. He’s got some SGA in him and he has some crazy measurables
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:00 pm to Balsamic_duck
I really think Fears is going to be a good shooter. People act like he can’t shoot at all but he was 85% from the free throw line which is a good indicator, and shows he has a shooters touch. Fears was just streaky and also took a lot of really deep and step back threes which tanked his percentage a bit. Wouldn’t shock me one bit if he shot mid thirty percent from three as a rookie
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:08 pm to Tigerjim09
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really think Fears is going to be a good shooter. People act like he can’t shoot at all but he was 85% from the free throw line which is a good indicator, and shows he has a shooters touch. Fears was just streaky and also took a lot of really deep and step back threes which tanked his percentage a bit. Wouldn’t shock me one bit if he shot mid thirty percent from three as a rookie
Yeah I’m not worried about his shooting too much. Kinda reminds me of Maxey’s year at Kentucky when he shot I think like 28% but you could tell he was gonna be a good shooter. My concerns more have to do with his size and playmaking.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:15 pm to Balsamic_duck
What are your playmaking concerns? He was the sole creator on that OU team and I thought he flashed really well as a passer.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:31 pm to Tigerjim09
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What are your playmaking concerns? He was the sole creator on that OU team and I thought he flashed really well as a passer.
He really didn’t average that many assists and had a poor ast/tov ratio. He did have some nice passes but he’s definitely a shoot first guy.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:05 pm to Balsamic_duck
I like your list and pretty much agree with everything you said. I’m very interested in trying to get a legit big.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:31 pm to jkylejohnson
I think Tre Johnson is going to be a star. I would trade s future pick to try and get him at 4.
Also, if we keep Z, I would make a serious run at Luke Kornet. Major upgrade over Kelly O. Floor spacer and some shot blocking.
Also love Rashard Fleming as a sleeper later in the first if for some reason we move back.
Also, if we keep Z, I would make a serious run at Luke Kornet. Major upgrade over Kelly O. Floor spacer and some shot blocking.
Also love Rashard Fleming as a sleeper later in the first if for some reason we move back.
Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:46 pm to six4lsu
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Also, if we keep Z, I would make a serious run at Luke Kornet. Major upgrade over Kelly O. Floor spacer and some shot blocking.
Luke Kornet has taken 22 threes the last 4 years.
Not per year.
Total.
Posted on 5/17/25 at 2:00 pm to Balsamic_duck
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If you like Clifford, you’ll love Cedric coward. He’s flying up draft boards. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go in the teens. He’s got some SGA in him and he has some crazy measurables
Love him, he will be a very good player, but he doesn’t have the handle to be a primary on ball creator like SGA.
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