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Draft picks are worthless in the NBA, unless they are top 5 picks
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:44 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:44 am
I fail to see how Trading Davis to Boston or LA with multiple years of picks is worth it.
The star players are mostly in the top 10 or top 5 of a draft.
Getting picks that translate to outside of the lottery are fruitless.
The star players are mostly in the top 10 or top 5 of a draft.
Getting picks that translate to outside of the lottery are fruitless.
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:45 am to Covingtontiger77
Boston has a lottery pick toots
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:45 am to Covingtontiger77
Boston’s picks aren’t their own. They own picks from teams like the Kings and Grizzlies which could be very high.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:45 am to Covingtontiger77
This is correct. Which is why the Lakers deal is trash and Boston has to include Tatum
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:45 am to Covingtontiger77
Unless I'm wrong, Boston's picks are from other franchises who will be in the lottery.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:47 am to novowels
Memphis' pick is top 8 protected. And Sacramento's is 13th right now. Neither are going to be particularly valuable unless the Kings fall off a cliff completely. And they have no reason to tank.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 8:49 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:50 am to Pelefraan 1
The protections roll back each year. And in the case of Memphis, they are set to rebuild. Which means potentially a VERY high pick if they bottom out in a stacked west.
It would just require a little bit of patience.
It would just require a little bit of patience.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:53 am to Pelefraan 1
I think that is what everyone is forgetting is that Boston's picks are protected
There is a chance the king's pick could be from 2-13.
Memphis pick would be have to be 9 to get
Pels will been in the lottery
It is possible we could get #1 #2 and #9. It is also possible we don't get the Memphis pick this year King's pick at #13 and ours at #10.
But next year Memphis pick is top 6 proctect and after that no protection.
Do you want to wait possibly 2 years to get to use a pick that could be out of the top 10 by that point
There is a chance the king's pick could be from 2-13.
Memphis pick would be have to be 9 to get
Pels will been in the lottery
It is possible we could get #1 #2 and #9. It is also possible we don't get the Memphis pick this year King's pick at #13 and ours at #10.
But next year Memphis pick is top 6 proctect and after that no protection.
Do you want to wait possibly 2 years to get to use a pick that could be out of the top 10 by that point
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:56 am to teke184
The Memphis pick does have a lot of potential, but teams that have unprotected picks tend to be motivated to win more than you’d like. The Clippers pick that won the lottery for Cleveland was 8th IIRC. The #10 Austin Rivers pick was unprotected. The unprotected (by the Kings) Kings pick will be around 10.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 8:57 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:05 am to Split2874
No way Memphis will be able to rebuild before 2021, and 2021 would arguably be the best year for a high pick because that's the 1st year high school players can enter the NBA, so it should be a stacked draft and we should be trying to get extra picks then
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:06 am to TigerinATL
the picks are still worth something in a trade, correct? If we get Tatum, we could trade the rights to the Grizzlies pick and our pick plus Moore with someone like the Bulls to move up to get Morant.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:09 am to novowels
quote:and Brown or GH plus a ton of first. Kings ransom or no deal
Boston has to include Tatum
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:09 am to Covingtontiger77
You guys are thinking strictly of the picks as players or draft positions.
Think about them as assets. Look what Boston did. They drafted well and acquired tons and tons of assets.
The Pelicans should do the same. If I'm trading Randle and Niko and Moore, I'm looking for future picks, not ones this year. I want as many picks and young players as possible.
Think about them as assets. Look what Boston did. They drafted well and acquired tons and tons of assets.
The Pelicans should do the same. If I'm trading Randle and Niko and Moore, I'm looking for future picks, not ones this year. I want as many picks and young players as possible.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:13 am to TigerinATL
There are still limits to how much of a rebuild Memphis can do.
They have huge money tied up in Conley, Gasol, and Chandler Parsons.
Gasol has a PO so he is either traded or gone because he could likely get a deal worth more than the last $18m on his contract.
Parsons is only tradable with a sweetener such as another player. And they are limited in the picks they can send due to Boston owning their protected first.
Conley has about $35m a season for multiple seasons left. Great point but he is aging and any team looking at him will be wanting to win now.
Not saying they can’t rebuild in 3 seasons but there are limitations depending on how they dispose of somebody big contracts and how much they are willing to blow on FAs.
They have huge money tied up in Conley, Gasol, and Chandler Parsons.
Gasol has a PO so he is either traded or gone because he could likely get a deal worth more than the last $18m on his contract.
Parsons is only tradable with a sweetener such as another player. And they are limited in the picks they can send due to Boston owning their protected first.
Conley has about $35m a season for multiple seasons left. Great point but he is aging and any team looking at him will be wanting to win now.
Not saying they can’t rebuild in 3 seasons but there are limitations depending on how they dispose of somebody big contracts and how much they are willing to blow on FAs.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:13 am to Covingtontiger77
Dumb statement. Some of the leagues best players were picked outside the top 5.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:18 am to supe12sta12z
This is why New York might be the best trade partner. They most likely are picking in the top 3 this year.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:19 am to Pelefraan 1
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Memphis' pick is top 8 protected. And Sacramento's is 13th right now. Neither are going to be particularly valuable unless the Kings fall off a cliff completely. And they have no reason to tank.
Conversely that is what makes the Knicks an intriguing dark horse trading contender.
They very well could end up with the first overall pick and you could realistically ask them for a future first as well. To go along with the possibility the Pels can tank their way into a lucky lotto roll and get into the top 3.
Which depending on how the Knicks future plays out that future first could end up very lucrative if AD cuts and runs, or simply if the Knicks Knick it up like they usually do. And if nothing else it pushes Boston to enrich the pot further.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 9:21 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:20 am to Covingtontiger77
They aren't worthless, but I wouldn't want several of them. Trying to develop multiple guys who aren't sure things will lead to a high failure rate.
So let's say I know I am getting Clips, Kings, and Memphis picks from Boston. Why not trade my own right now (top 5 protected) for a more known commodity? I still have similar picks in next draft but I am not trying to develop all these guys at once
Example - what if I can get Aaron Gordon for Randle, Moore and my 1st?
Now, I got a core of Jrue-Smart-Tatum-Gordon-Jah
Still got 13th and 17th pick in 2019. All my future picks and a future Memphis pick.
I am good and young. Flexible and also am developing you g talent while having g more assets in the pipeline
So let's say I know I am getting Clips, Kings, and Memphis picks from Boston. Why not trade my own right now (top 5 protected) for a more known commodity? I still have similar picks in next draft but I am not trying to develop all these guys at once
Example - what if I can get Aaron Gordon for Randle, Moore and my 1st?
Now, I got a core of Jrue-Smart-Tatum-Gordon-Jah
Still got 13th and 17th pick in 2019. All my future picks and a future Memphis pick.
I am good and young. Flexible and also am developing you g talent while having g more assets in the pipeline
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:22 am to Split2874
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Do you want to wait possibly 2 years to get to use a pick that could be out of the top 10 by that point
Yes, this draft stinks anyway. Unless JJJ turns into the next AD, that pick could be a possible #1 overall.
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