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re: Didn’t our Hawks insider say they had no interest in DD the other night?

Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:56 am to
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There's nothing wrong with what you've posted.


Except if I made shite up it would be whacked
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:01 am to
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CajunMD


Just ignore them man.


Any ideas on BI landing spot? More importantly how that gets us a center?

Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:03 am to
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Waiting on your reply


I posted exactly what you said, the Hawks said they didn’t care for DD and the pelicans hold him in high regard, so they just threw him in the trade as filler? Seems like if they valued him, another first woukd have been added.

And you also threw out some outlandish trade proposals for Trae that like I said would never happen. I don’t pretend to have inside info but I know Traes value right now isn’t anywhere close to what the people you talked to were saying what they wanted.

Maybe you know somebody on the inside, maybe you don’t. Most of what you posted was common knowledge. Griff wanted Murray more than Trae. Everyone knew that. Everyone knew the Hawks had to trade one of the two, and Traes value is down because of his salary and the dynamics of the team you’d have to have surrounding him. Murray was always going to be the one on the move.,
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 10:05 am
Posted by Girth Donor
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:06 am to
How early you hit Total Wine this morning?
Posted by supe12sta12z
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:08 am to
We've always coveted Murray. Last year and into the summer. Trae was never an option because Herb would have to be involved and he was untouchable. Besides, Trae and CJ was never going to be viable. CJ isn't getting traded.

Throw enough shite out there and you'll have data to carry sheeps.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:09 am to
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But you also seem to take Macs word as gospel from that other thread a few days ago, and the Murray trade did make him look foolish. Shoulda made this thread for him, not the doctor dude


I dint take Mac’s word as gospel. Mac was all for the Lakers trade for Ingram when he thought he had a much higher ceiling and I told him several times on here Tatum was going to be much better.

You still butt hurt because you think Treys value is on another tier from Herb and I just agreed with his evaluation and not yours.

Mac was saying on another message board that the Pels wouldn’t have interest in a Murray deal because DD would be better than Murray once he learns to hit threes. Mac says some wild shite sometimes.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:37 am to
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Throw enough shite out there and you'll have data to carry sheeps.


If he wants to drop knowledge on the specific center we are targeting, and it happens, I’ll gladly bend the knee. About 5 centers have been mentioned but it’ll probably be one of three if I had to guess.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:50 am to
Sixers Los Angeles or Cavs
Posted by CajunMD
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:20 am to
1. Do you think the Pelicans wanted to just trade Dyson? Do you think Murray could have been had for anything less? If you think so, you’re out of your mind. You think everything on a message board, Twitter, internet is true? It’s for entertainment. We got Murray for peanuts. It’s common sense that we would have to include a young player as a filler. The NBA would probably veto the trade if not as it would be suspicious. Hawks wanted a defensive guard or wing. Herb obviously was not to be had. So if you were the Hawks, would you prefer Dyson (who is younger than most) or Hawkins? Ya. Pelicans did not want to include Dyson. Idt anyone in the office or any fan did.. but guess what? A trade, especially for a former all star goes two ways. Pelicans loved Dyson. But we have way too many guards at his position. We got value for him. The Hawks pulled the trigger bc that was our best offer. As I mentioned, the firsts we have beyond this year is considered our war chest. Tons of picks plus some youngsters will get you a STAR, Dyson Daniels with a few picks will not. Pelicans wanted Murray. And they did what they had to do to get him.

Idt you understand it in other teams eyes. Teams value picks. Why do you think teams are trading picks out the arse for borderline all stars? That’s the current price, and teams want that. Pelicans value their picks. Every team does.

2. As far as Trae is concerned. It doesn’t even matter anymore. But what I will say, is that regardless of the Yahoo articles you may have read about Trae not fetching much value. That is true. That doesn’t mean that the Hawks are going to trade him for peanuts. You do realize that teams leak things like this to lower the asking price right? Was Trae traded yet? No. Do you know what he will be or has be traded for? No. Imagine reports coming out saying Zion isn’t worth what people think he is…you honestly think as the manager of the organization you would just trade him for 2-3 picks when he still has years on his contract left?

The hawks are asking for a lot. ALOT. But teams don’t agree with their evaluation. Hence why he has not been traded.. it doesn’t mean that he can’t be traded for peanuts, but I can tell you right now he won’t. The asking price for Trae is absurd…and yes. I wanted Trae more than anyone. But I can tell you what I mentioned about Trae is fact. Whether you believe it or not is your opinion and I respect it. He hasn’t been traded yet, so none of us can defend our response. But what I don’t agree with is starting a petty thread calling someone out for something that has not even been done yet.. regardless of what you read or not.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:05 pm to
Well, Trae won't be traded now. That's the point of getting Dyson: to put a defensive stud next to him to cover his defensive weaknesses, while acquiring assets to be used to improve the rest of the roster.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 5:18 pm to
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posted exactly what you said
Seems like you didn't read or post his full quote. He did, and your OP title is very disingenuous based on the quotes he provided in this thread.
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Most of what you posted was common knowledge
Your OP started with saying he was wrong, then you said his Trae stuff was wrong, and now you're saying he just said stuff everyone knew... that doesn't seem to make sense. He was wrong or making shite up AND he just said what everyone already knew?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 5:18 pm to
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How early you hit Total Wine this morning?


Seriously, this thread just didn't go in his favor once the doctor dude replied. It's been a bad look for OP.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 5:22 pm to
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I dint take Mac’s word as gospel
The other day you replied to me twice and each time your main reasoning for your side of the debate was "Mac thinks this" so you kinda did, at least in that one scenario.
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You still butt hurt because you think Treys value is on another tier from Herb
It is, or you pretending you proved me wrong because "Mac said so?"

Again, literally your main talking point of that debate was that Mac agreed with you, and you think that's why you proved me wrong. Yikes...
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Mac says some wild shite sometimes.
Like Herb having as much value as Trey... You seem to believe some of the wild shite he says sometimes.

You're a complete mess in this thread, man.
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