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re: Did Griff screw up by not trading for Rui ?
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:18 am to WhiteMandingo
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:18 am to WhiteMandingo
quote:None of them are good, if we drafted any of those dudes with 1st round picks, it would have been a poor pick.
Well he could have had Rui in stead if Jax or Naw in the draft he chose poorly.
quote:Well if your argument is that every solid, young player we have is just luck, then yea, there's nothing that'll ever change your opinion.
Griff is not good he has been Lucky
Oh he got Lebron he was picking 1 who else was he going to take same w/ Kyrie also the same w/ zion.
I highly doubt he was look I found this little scrappy ball player Jose Alvarado or he was all in on Trey. Or Herb
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 9:18 am
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:51 am to shel311
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None of them are good, if we drafted any of those dudes with 1st round picks, it would have been a poor pick.
Out of the three, NAW has become the best player. NAW is definitely better than Rui. Nickeil always worked hard to improve his game, which is a big reason that it was obvious right away that he'd have a better career than Jaxson. NAW would have been better for us than Naji this season, so I wish we could've kept him instead of Jaxson in the Portland trade, but I understand that we needed Jaxson more last season.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:10 am to Chalkywhite84
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I mean you can judge griff off these past mistakes like darius garland. He has also done some nice things.
I was on record that we should have drafted Garland that year, but his other major screwup and I also pointed this out at the time was not getting Lauri M for Ball. He passed on that twice.
My thinking was that we were devoid of 3 point shooting at the time and reading the tea leaves, you could see Zion was gonna be a major injury risk. So why not have an elite shooting big to take his spot when he misses games?
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:17 am to DallasTiger45
They both play PF? Nance is an ok small ball C against certain teams but he’s 6’9. He’s not playing C against the Jokic’s and AD’s of the world. At least Rui can actually stretch to the perimeter at 6’8. Remember when 6’9 Nance bricked two straight wide open corner 3’s during the Warriors run against us? That’s not even mentioning how Nance let the warriors back in the game late 3rd because small ball Looney dominated him on the glass repeatedly. Nance was a cone late season, if Looney is a bad matchup for him, who’s a good matchup for him?
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:22 am to spaghettioeauxs
Nance plays 99% of his minutes at center. We only put him at PF when we get desperate.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 11:23 am
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:33 am to supe12sta12z
The problem is he’s a garbage C who doesn’t match up against any of the good C’s in the league.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:58 pm to shel311
I'm not saying Griff didn't sign off on trey or herb I'm saying that was not his doing somebody who knows the game found them and he accepted that.
Griff is not good at basket ball IQ he has people like Tajon and swin.
Griff is not good at basket ball IQ he has people like Tajon and swin.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:16 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
We could've had Garland
Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:21 pm to bayouboy318
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We could've had Garland
Really? I don't think any of us realized that.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 8:53 pm to shel311
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No, he's not very good, a below average basketball player.
Still sticking with this terrible take?
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:07 pm to spaghettioeauxs
Xavier Tillman for the Grizzlies just showed what a decent replacement 4 can do to stabilize a team.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:08 pm to spaghettioeauxs
quote:
Still sticking with this terrible take?
You sticking with a 2 game sample size over a multi year sample size. Hilarious that you think that's gonna end well for you.
Rui is a below average basketball player. Imagine thinking 2 games changes that entirely.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:08 pm to Pistol44
quote:According to the above logic, he's a really super duper awesome basketball player if he had 1 good game.
Xavier Tillman for the Grizzlies just showed what a decent replacement 4 can do to stabilize a team.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:09 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Still sticking with this terrible take?
Averaged 10 and 5 on 48/30/72% splits with LA this year with a PER of 12.7, pretty much on par with his career stats since entering the league. Not sure how a 2 game sample size changes that.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:10 pm to shel311
Dude was on the Wizards for years.. you think that’s a reliable sample? You’re just blindly calling a player trash with nothing to back it up, he’s played in 2 career playoff games and has scored over 20 in both of them
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:15 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Dude was on the Wizards for years.. you think that’s a reliable sample?
Why would it not be? Players can’t put up good numbers on bad teams?
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:30 pm to shel311
For sure Rui’s not a world beater, but is a serviceable 4. My point is that a 4 with a little size, even less talented, would have been a better option than asking Herb, Naji, BI, or Dyson to log heavy minutes at the 4.
This post was edited on 4/19/23 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:30 pm to spaghettioeauxs
quote:Uhh yes.
Dude was on the Wizards for years.. you think that’s a reliable sample
quote:Check his stats and get back to me.
You’re just blindly calling a player trash with nothing to back it up
He also went to the lakers and was the same below average player there, so what's your excuse then?
quote:Cool, put all your eggs in that 2 game sample size. I'll take the 4 years.
he’s played in 2 career playoff games and has scored over 20 in both of them
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:56 am to shel311
My only takeaway here is that he’s been in the league for five years. Got damn. I feel like he just entered a couple years ago.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:11 am to Pistol44
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My point is that a 4 with a little size, even less talented, would have been a better option than asking Herb, Naji, BI, or Dyson to log heavy minutes at the 4.
Agree…for certain matchups playing small ball works and that’s been shown for a while now, but there isn’t any doubt to me that the lack of a legitimate backup 4 to provide some size along the front, particularly against big athletic front lines, was a disaster for the Pels.
Trying to use Herb, Naji, Dyson in that role for long stretches of the season just made the Pels small inside on D, without any floor spacing on offense. Not seeing and fixing that issue coming into the season, nor at the deadline, and just relying on Zion to be the Pels only 4 was negligent.
That’s why I’m sort of leaning toward Kris Murray in the draft over some of the other shooters (even ones with length like Howard). In that case, hopefully one of Liddell and Murray can give the Pels a little more junk in the trunk at the 4, while making enough outside shots to keep the floor balanced when Zion isn’t on the floor.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 8:49 am
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