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re: Dejounte Murray for Dyson Daniels and two first round picks

Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:33 am to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24564 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:33 am to
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We are not good enough thanks to Zion



Fify
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:39 am to
WIKSF's heel turn to the dark side, this is when I truly knew it was over!
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12033 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:41 am to
If you look at it from a volume perspective, Daniels is currently getting a lot more volume than Trey got all of last season.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24564 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:47 am to
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this is when I truly knew it was over!


This was always going to be the final year for me. Last years 70 games was an aberration.

He's not fricking serious. At least Ingram has shown a willingness to change and has tried to become a more well rounded player in his career. He doesn't half 3/4ths of the god given talent Zion has and he's far and away a much better player than Zion.

frick Z. It would take a character change like we've never seen before for him to win back my good graces.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13081 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:09 pm to
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This was the biggest frick-up of Griffin's tenure. He should have built a normal roster and made Zion adapt and grow. Instead, he tried to build a roster around Zion's many flaws and we pay the price every time he gets fat or injured.
Ignorant take. The problem as been that he has NOT built the roster around Zion. He keeps trading valuable assets for players that would have been good in the 70s instead of getting shooters around an inside player.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:13 pm to
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The problem as been that he has NOT built the roster around Zion. He keeps trading valuable assets for players that would have been good in the 70s instead of getting shooters around an inside player.


I don’t know. How do you build around a guy who’s never there? You have no idea what works and what doesn’t- especially in the postseason.

To a degree both you aren’t wrong. Zion needs to grow and adapt and be better than just an inside guy with no moves. At the same time Griffin should have solved the PG and center issues a long time ago.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38408 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:40 pm to
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He keeps trading valuable assets for players that would have been good in the 70s instead of getting shooters around an inside player.


Yea, disagree here. The team has traded for, drafted, and developed good 3 point shooters during Zions tenure. Coaching has been a failure his whole time here and obviously Zion can't get out of his own way.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17436 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Ignorant take. The problem as been that he has NOT built the roster around Zion. He keeps trading valuable assets for players that would have been good in the 70s instead of getting shooters around an inside player.


Holy shite take, Batman.

Griffin has brought in CJ, Murray, Jonas, and Hawkins. All spacers for their position, but never enough spacing for Zion. You call Zion "an inside player," but he never posts, has not developed a low post game, and is more likely standing around 30 feet from the basket while the play develops.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Instead, he tried to build a roster around Zion's
You sure about that?
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2316 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:49 am to
Dyson with the game sealing block on Fox. No steals but 4 blocks.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19963 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 4:42 am to
Dyson is shooting 29% from 3 this season. His ceiling is still limited, unless he learns to shoot.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2156 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:44 am to
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Dyson is shooting 29% from 3 this season. His ceiling is still limited, unless he learns to shoot.


Herb only shot 33% from 3...each of his first 2 years. Dyson shot 31% each of his first 2 years.

Dyson is improving his overall offensive game the more minutes he gets...and he's getting HEAVY minutes.

Doubt he'll ever be quite the player Herb is...overall...but he can get close and I'd luv to have him back with the Pels. He's still "stiff" and prone to TOs when he handles the ball but getting better at going to the hoop.

BTW: He's currently a wonderful "angle" betting prospect...until his minutes and/or shots go down. Had ONLY a decent game last night...and he went "over" on points...rebounds...and assists. I'll ride him until he comes out of this "transition" phase...especially on rebounds and assists.

This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 10:50 am
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