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Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:31 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290732 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:31 am to
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Thank God!!!! He was the Jamal Mashburn, Baron Davis of this organization. The dude can play but he no longer fits into our style of play.



not sure if serious
Posted by bigbenlsu
New Orleans
Member since May 2005
1128 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:36 am to
Okay, so say West does not re-sign. What do y'all see odds are of Paul in New Orleans past 2011-12?
Posted by plawmac
Member since Dec 2007
3210 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:43 am to
All this does is underscore the need for local ownership - asap. Not sure how this team will be able to bid on FA's if the NBA still owns the team - how does it work when the Hornets either want to resign West, or go after another FA, and another team that is not under NBA control, wants the same player?!? Even if there is no undue interference by the league and the player signs elsewhere, it will not pass the smell test.
So, anyone want to pass the hat and make a bid for the team!?!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103841 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:44 am to
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Okay, so say West does not re-sign. What do y'all see odds are of Paul in New Orleans past 2011-12?


Depends on who Demps puts around Paul for next year.

If Paul is willing to accept Landry as West's replacement, it's a matter of who Demps gets to be the starting 2 and taking the scoring pressure off of Landry and CP3.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476126 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:46 am to
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Honestly don't think it's a bad thing for the team going forward

the last thing this franchise can afford to do is over-extend and overpay another guy who is old

west's contract could theoretically be a franchise killer. he's old and has issues and we don't need to be signing him to a deal that will have him on our payroll in 4 years at over $10M per

no more poseys. no more pejas.
Posted by 19thHole
Working on my TPS reports
Member since Dec 2007
4908 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:57 am to
what I found interesting was that in the statement from his agent, it almost sounds like a page from CP3's book about winning a title etc.

he might be in a similar boat that he feels he needs to get out of NOLA to win a championship and thats what he wants to do.....
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22227 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:58 am to
I agree.

Particularly if they re up Landry. That makes it a no brainer,imo.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:19 pm to
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the last thing this franchise can afford to do is over-extend and overpay another guy who is old


Looks like Demps may agree.

quote:

West hasn’t ruled out the Hornets, who offered him a three-year, $26 million-plus extension this season.

LINK
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50391 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:20 pm to
That would be a solid deal.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290732 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:41 pm to
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Particularly if they re up Landry. That makes it a no brainer,imo.




what I see happening if they miss out on West, is Landry having a lot of leverage while negotiating with the Hornets.


It could turn into a negative, not a positive. Hornets will be desperate for a 4, and will have to throw money at the undersized Landry to compensate.


I also see it as the end of CP3 if they cant re-sign DWest. Unless we make a nice splash in Free agency, this team is not going to be good and they are going to need bodies(particularly someone to score the ball and rebound) and the best thing to do is do a 3 for 1 for CP3 or something similar to that


DWest is a huge part of our team. Do I think we should overpay him? No. But if for some reason we cant re-sign him, I dont think that will be a good thing for the future of our team
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122540 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:53 pm to
Landry is a nice role player but he isn't anywhere near the caliber if DX. Yeah, on paper it may not be a huge loss but as it stands now we have one legit player on the offensive end. One.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12390 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:56 pm to
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It could turn into a negative, not a positive. Hornets will be desperate for a 4, and will have to throw money at the undersized Landry to compensate.


Landry is not the ONLY option. Josh Smith??

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I also see it as the end of CP3 if they cant re-sign DWest. Unless we make a nice splash in Free agency, this team is not going to be good and they are going to need bodies(particularly someone to score the ball and rebound) and the best thing to do is do a 3 for 1 for CP3 or something similar to that


We ebat the Lakers twice in the playoffs without David West.

quote:

DWest is a huge part of our team. Do I think we should overpay him? No. But if for some reason we cant re-sign him, I dont think that will be a good thing for the future of our team


It is a business and losing David West is nothing compared to losing CP3. I would rather lose him the Chris Paul. Now THAT would be terrible for the team.

Posted by Eman5805
West Bank
Member since Nov 2010
5098 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:59 pm to
Depression setting in hard in HR town.

I can only do so much damage control.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:00 pm to
If Landry is the starting PF then Demps has to deliver a 20ppg stud at SG. I hate to say it, but are any of the FA SGs even capable of that besides Marcus Thornton? JRich hasn't averaged 20 in quite a while and Nick Young only got 17 last year.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12390 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:17 pm to
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FA SGs even capable of that besides Marcus Thornton?


Come on man. We went through this already. The dude can score, no doubt. But he was not consistent nor could he play defense. In no way is he a stud SG. No way!

Nick Young? Jason Richardson? Define a Stud SG for me please because there are no Studs available in FA this season. NONE! Good ones? yes. Studs? No.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22227 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:25 pm to
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DWest is a huge part of our team. Do I think we should overpay him? No. But if for some reason we cant re-sign him, I dont think that will be a good thing for the future of our team
What i was saying was contingent on re signing Landry and bring in a legit SG.

Yeah, just signing Landry and going into next season with the same roster minus West would be bad. However, a SG that can get you something like 18ppg plus Landry at something like 16/7 would be fine.

To me, the talk of us needing to keep West for Paul to stay is off base though. Paul knows what he wants to do, regardless of what West does. The writing is on the wall with him. Its a Michael Cera movie at this point, we've seen the script over and over. These recent star players dont look and around decide to stay where they're at. The grass is always greener. In Paul's situation, he's probably right.

Demps is in a really tough spot. He's gotta do what he can to keep Paul while staying realistic and avoiding wrecking the franchise for if/when Paul leaves.

If Paul was making it clear that he wanted to extend with the Hornets, then the West deal would be easy. You sign West to whatever he wants and roll with those two going forward.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290732 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:44 pm to
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Landry is not the ONLY option. Josh Smith??




Do you know something we don't?


Josh Smith? Who do we trade to get Josh Smith?

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We ebat the Lakers twice in the playoffs without David West.


and over 82 game schedule we can maintain that level of play? No way.

quote:

It is a business and losing David West is nothing compared to losing CP3. I would rather lose him the Chris Paul. Now THAT would be terrible for the team.



No shite captain obvious

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103841 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:49 pm to
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Come on man. We went through this already. The dude can score, no doubt. But he was not consistent nor could he play defense. In no way is he a stud SG. No way!

Nick Young? Jason Richardson? Define a Stud SG for me please because there are no Studs available in FA this season. NONE! Good ones? yes. Studs? No.


Who says it has to be a FA?

There's a stud SG in Monta Ellis available in the trade market thanks to Don Nelson leaving, new ownership, and the drafting of Klay Thompson.
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1866 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:58 pm to
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Do you know something we don't?


Josh Smith? Who do we trade to get Josh Smith?


The Hawks are about to be sold and are trying to cut salary. I'm not saying the Hornets will take on money, but Josh Smith will be traded to somebody with cap space for a draft pick or for someone with a non-guaranteed contract and a draft pick.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476126 posts
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:59 pm to
if we have the pieces to get smith, i'd love it

but i don't know if we have those pieces

HR.com is fricking melting down

i guess it's good that i'm banned b/c i'd go gloat how i was 100% right about hwo james fricking posey killed the franchise
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