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Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:36 am to Lester Earl
Okay, so say West does not re-sign. What do y'all see odds are of Paul in New Orleans past 2011-12?
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:43 am to bigbenlsu
All this does is underscore the need for local ownership - asap. Not sure how this team will be able to bid on FA's if the NBA still owns the team - how does it work when the Hornets either want to resign West, or go after another FA, and another team that is not under NBA control, wants the same player?!? Even if there is no undue interference by the league and the player signs elsewhere, it will not pass the smell test.
So, anyone want to pass the hat and make a bid for the team!?!
So, anyone want to pass the hat and make a bid for the team!?!
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:44 am to bigbenlsu
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Okay, so say West does not re-sign. What do y'all see odds are of Paul in New Orleans past 2011-12?
Depends on who Demps puts around Paul for next year.
If Paul is willing to accept Landry as West's replacement, it's a matter of who Demps gets to be the starting 2 and taking the scoring pressure off of Landry and CP3.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:46 am to eyeran
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Honestly don't think it's a bad thing for the team going forward
the last thing this franchise can afford to do is over-extend and overpay another guy who is old
west's contract could theoretically be a franchise killer. he's old and has issues and we don't need to be signing him to a deal that will have him on our payroll in 4 years at over $10M per
no more poseys. no more pejas.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
what I found interesting was that in the statement from his agent, it almost sounds like a page from CP3's book about winning a title etc.
he might be in a similar boat that he feels he needs to get out of NOLA to win a championship and thats what he wants to do.....
he might be in a similar boat that he feels he needs to get out of NOLA to win a championship and thats what he wants to do.....
Posted on 6/27/11 at 11:58 am to SlowFlowPro
I agree.
Particularly if they re up Landry. That makes it a no brainer,imo.
Particularly if they re up Landry. That makes it a no brainer,imo.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the last thing this franchise can afford to do is over-extend and overpay another guy who is old
Looks like Demps may agree.
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West hasn’t ruled out the Hornets, who offered him a three-year, $26 million-plus extension this season.
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Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:20 pm to TigerinATL
That would be a solid deal.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:41 pm to eyeran
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Particularly if they re up Landry. That makes it a no brainer,imo.
what I see happening if they miss out on West, is Landry having a lot of leverage while negotiating with the Hornets.
It could turn into a negative, not a positive. Hornets will be desperate for a 4, and will have to throw money at the undersized Landry to compensate.
I also see it as the end of CP3 if they cant re-sign DWest. Unless we make a nice splash in Free agency, this team is not going to be good and they are going to need bodies(particularly someone to score the ball and rebound) and the best thing to do is do a 3 for 1 for CP3 or something similar to that
DWest is a huge part of our team. Do I think we should overpay him? No. But if for some reason we cant re-sign him, I dont think that will be a good thing for the future of our team
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:53 pm to Lester Earl
Landry is a nice role player but he isn't anywhere near the caliber if DX. Yeah, on paper it may not be a huge loss but as it stands now we have one legit player on the offensive end. One.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:56 pm to Lester Earl
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It could turn into a negative, not a positive. Hornets will be desperate for a 4, and will have to throw money at the undersized Landry to compensate.
Landry is not the ONLY option. Josh Smith??
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I also see it as the end of CP3 if they cant re-sign DWest. Unless we make a nice splash in Free agency, this team is not going to be good and they are going to need bodies(particularly someone to score the ball and rebound) and the best thing to do is do a 3 for 1 for CP3 or something similar to that
We ebat the Lakers twice in the playoffs without David West.
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DWest is a huge part of our team. Do I think we should overpay him? No. But if for some reason we cant re-sign him, I dont think that will be a good thing for the future of our team
It is a business and losing David West is nothing compared to losing CP3. I would rather lose him the Chris Paul. Now THAT would be terrible for the team.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:59 pm to tadelatt
Depression setting in hard in HR town.
I can only do so much damage control.
I can only do so much damage control.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:00 pm to NIH
If Landry is the starting PF then Demps has to deliver a 20ppg stud at SG. I hate to say it, but are any of the FA SGs even capable of that besides Marcus Thornton? JRich hasn't averaged 20 in quite a while and Nick Young only got 17 last year.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:17 pm to TigerinATL
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FA SGs even capable of that besides Marcus Thornton?
Come on man. We went through this already. The dude can score, no doubt. But he was not consistent nor could he play defense. In no way is he a stud SG. No way!
Nick Young? Jason Richardson? Define a Stud SG for me please because there are no Studs available in FA this season. NONE! Good ones? yes. Studs? No.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:25 pm to Lester Earl
quote:What i was saying was contingent on re signing Landry and bring in a legit SG.
DWest is a huge part of our team. Do I think we should overpay him? No. But if for some reason we cant re-sign him, I dont think that will be a good thing for the future of our team
Yeah, just signing Landry and going into next season with the same roster minus West would be bad. However, a SG that can get you something like 18ppg plus Landry at something like 16/7 would be fine.
To me, the talk of us needing to keep West for Paul to stay is off base though. Paul knows what he wants to do, regardless of what West does. The writing is on the wall with him. Its a Michael Cera movie at this point, we've seen the script over and over. These recent star players dont look and around decide to stay where they're at. The grass is always greener. In Paul's situation, he's probably right.
Demps is in a really tough spot. He's gotta do what he can to keep Paul while staying realistic and avoiding wrecking the franchise for if/when Paul leaves.
If Paul was making it clear that he wanted to extend with the Hornets, then the West deal would be easy. You sign West to whatever he wants and roll with those two going forward.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:44 pm to tadelatt
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Landry is not the ONLY option. Josh Smith??
Do you know something we don't?
Josh Smith? Who do we trade to get Josh Smith?
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We ebat the Lakers twice in the playoffs without David West.
and over 82 game schedule we can maintain that level of play? No way.
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It is a business and losing David West is nothing compared to losing CP3. I would rather lose him the Chris Paul. Now THAT would be terrible for the team.
No shite captain obvious
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:49 pm to tadelatt
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Come on man. We went through this already. The dude can score, no doubt. But he was not consistent nor could he play defense. In no way is he a stud SG. No way!
Nick Young? Jason Richardson? Define a Stud SG for me please because there are no Studs available in FA this season. NONE! Good ones? yes. Studs? No.
Who says it has to be a FA?
There's a stud SG in Monta Ellis available in the trade market thanks to Don Nelson leaving, new ownership, and the drafting of Klay Thompson.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:58 pm to Lester Earl
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Do you know something we don't?
Josh Smith? Who do we trade to get Josh Smith?
The Hawks are about to be sold and are trying to cut salary. I'm not saying the Hornets will take on money, but Josh Smith will be traded to somebody with cap space for a draft pick or for someone with a non-guaranteed contract and a draft pick.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 1:59 pm to mhasen1
if we have the pieces to get smith, i'd love it
but i don't know if we have those pieces
HR.com is fricking melting down
i guess it's good that i'm banned b/c i'd go gloat how i was 100% right about hwo james fricking posey killed the franchise
but i don't know if we have those pieces
HR.com is fricking melting down
i guess it's good that i'm banned b/c i'd go gloat how i was 100% right about hwo james fricking posey killed the franchise
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