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re: CJ by the numbers
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:00 am to TigerinATL
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:00 am to TigerinATL
There is no reason for him to take more shots and play more minutes than BI and Zion. I think he is good to have but he doesn't need to be our #1 shot taker unless BI and Zion and JV and Trey are all hurt.
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:05 am to armsdealer
But it's also up to BI and Zion to be aggressive and get their offense in. They have been really passive early in games for the past couple of games for some reason.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:15 am to armsdealer
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JV and Trey are all hurt.
What?
In no universe should CJ be the 5th option. He’s a far better bucket getter than Jonas and Trey. Trey shooting the 3 has got some of y’all heads clouded.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:24 am to Soggymoss
CJ’s gravity is important for the rest of the guys on offense. Defenders are going to give him attention even if he’s shouting sub 30. He needs to shooting to keep ‘em honest and find his groove
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:41 am to GynoSandberg
I don’t hate him taking 3s. He should take 7-10 a game. I also don’t mind when he drives to the basket. It’s when he doesn’t pass the ball once and dribbles around terrible picks and throws up a horrible low percentage middy that makes me irrationally angry. He didn’t do it as much last year but he does it wayyyy too often this year.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:47 am to WicKed WayZ
You’re talking about his midrange once again when I’ve already shown you above that he is shooting the mid range better than BI. It’s like some of y’all are willfully ignorant and just want to keep spewing idiotic lies to make yourself feel better.
Hell CJ is shooting the midrange better than he’s shooting from in the paint, so you WANT him shooting the mid
Hell CJ is shooting the midrange better than he’s shooting from in the paint, so you WANT him shooting the mid
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 11:02 am
Posted on 11/12/22 at 12:38 pm to Soggymoss
Calm down sparky
Posted on 11/12/22 at 2:39 pm to Soggymoss
CJ shouldn't be playing hero ball if he has those guys on the court. If you like watching the PG play ISO hero ball while other guys are unguarded then there is no hope for you.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 2:50 pm to armsdealer
CJ’s usage rate is lower than it has been at any point in his career save for his first two seasons. This is yet another wrong narrative that needs to die
Posted on 11/12/22 at 4:10 pm to Soggymoss
He still should not have more shots on a regular basis than Zion and BI
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:29 pm to WicKed WayZ
This I will agree with, however the talk about CJ is just chunking up bad midranges, he’s hogging the ball, he’s doing nothing but iso, etc needs to stop. His usage is down even after carrying the team for 2 games with BI and Z out, he’s a top 4 midrange shooter in the NBA this year, and he’s leading the team in assists.
BI and Zion have both diverted to CJ, CJ has been the only guy that’s actually been aggressive on offense for the entire 48 minutes of the game, Look at BI and Zion not being aggressive more than CJ taking the reigns. They pick up their game CJ will sacrifice even more of his game, it’s in them to take the reigns though, not CJ
BI and Zion have both diverted to CJ, CJ has been the only guy that’s actually been aggressive on offense for the entire 48 minutes of the game, Look at BI and Zion not being aggressive more than CJ taking the reigns. They pick up their game CJ will sacrifice even more of his game, it’s in them to take the reigns though, not CJ
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:44 pm to Soggymoss
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CJ’s usage rate is lower than it has been at any point in his career save for his first two seasons. This is yet another wrong narrative that needs to die
Even if you were right, CJ should be shooting WAY less with two stars next to him vs 1 star in Portland. 10 shots per game is plenty and most should be open 3's. 10 shots, 10 assists should be his goal. It is hard for BI and Zion to be aggressive when they never touch the ball on possessions when CJ is shooting early shot clock step back iso shots. 1/2 of CJ's shots are early in the shot clock step backs under tight or very tight coverage. He should eliminate ALL of those.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 5:59 pm to armsdealer
CJ sees this as "his team" in the sense that he's the adult in the room and responsible for managing it. He's regularly talked about needing to get the team into their sets and such. What he needs to learn is that a lot of the time his most valuable role will be spacing for Zion and BI off ball.
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 11/12/22 at 6:13 pm to armsdealer
CJ McCollum is a proven NBA player stop playing with his name
He’ll adjust his game and start attacking the rim, open up midrange game then his 3 will start falling and the fans will love him again.
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He’ll adjust his game and start attacking the rim, open up midrange game then his 3 will start falling and the fans will love him again.
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 6:59 pm to Don Pel
That's probably the most logical outcome. Unless Father Time has come knocking
Posted on 11/12/22 at 7:02 pm to Pelefraan 1
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That's probably the most logical outcome. Unless Father Time has come knocking
CJ adjustment to Fatherhood may be more of a factor on his current play than Father Time playing an issue.
ETA:
@OlehKosel
CJ McCollum moved much more effortlessly, just showed greater energy in his pregame workout. Also, seemingly nearly every shot dropped.
Let's see if it translates.
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:07 pm to Don Pel
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Let's see if it translates.
It did not
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:28 pm to PillPusher
I've said it over and over this season.
There is nothing to point to CJ losing a step. The only issue is the shot isn't going in.
That's why I'm not the least bit concerned.
There is nothing to point to CJ losing a step. The only issue is the shot isn't going in.
That's why I'm not the least bit concerned.
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:46 pm to PillPusher
Lol, if he can get me 13 pts and one assist I’ll live with this performance
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:14 pm to Don Pel
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@OlehKosel
CJ McCollum moved much more effortlessly, just showed greater energy in his pregame workout. Also, seemingly nearly every shot dropped.
No better barometer than a casual shoot around in warm ups with 0 defense
I can't stand people extrapolating that into a game situation
And it was posted by Oleh, the world's biggest Pelican sunshine pumper. Who would have thought
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 9:17 pm
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