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re: CJ agrees to 2 year 64 million dollar extension
Posted on 9/25/22 at 7:38 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 9/25/22 at 7:38 pm to Epic Cajun
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How many of those 35 guys averaged over 30 ppg in their year 30 season?
I don't know. Maybe 2, Curry and Durant. It wouldn't be hard to find out. Only a few people a year, if that, score 30ppg.
Not sure what your point is with that.
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Your problem is that you are comparing CJ to the average NBA player and he is not an average NBA player. He’s averaged 20+ ppg every season that he has been a starter.
That is how numbers work. There isn't a special equation to formulate and project the remainder of his career that is going to be that specific. It's probabilities and odds. I don't gamble, but the math isn't in his favor. I'm not being a dick, that's just honesty.
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:18 pm to brmark70816
quote:Maybe you should go back and read what you wrote, troll-
You are either reading impaired or being intentionally dishonest.
I never said he should make the MLE. I said in two years that would more than likely be the contract he commands.
But lets do this. Last season, there were less than 20 players in the league over the age of 35. 5 of those made over the "MLE".
7 players in the league 35 years old, all MLE.
10 players in the league 34 years old, 2 not MLE (Conley)
18 players in the league 33 years old, 5 not MLE
He would be 33 when he became a FA. That is 7 out of 35 guys, and most of those are bad deals now. So do your own research and cherry pick you out a couple of examples to show that McCollum would totally buck the trend and be the exception, rather than the rule..
quote:You said starter. What type of player similar to what you expect of CJ is an MLE starter?
No. In 2 years I believe he is closer to a mid-level exception type of starter.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:20 pm to NOSHAU
Y’all do know brmark is the same guy that tried arguing a player’s prime is 19-22 and they retire at 27 or some shite two years ago, right?
CJ is a dinosaur to him
CJ is a dinosaur to him
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:27 pm to brmark70816
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You don't get top players on good deals for what we gave up.
Portland sold low on CJ. CJ is on record saying he chose to go to New Orleans. So out of all the low ball deals we likely had, we told y’all “hey CJ has been a great player and community rep here in PDX and he wants to play with Zion. How can we make this happen?” Similar how Portland got Jerami Grant though he was in Detroit a short amount of time. Detroit is undergoing a youth movement and did him right by sending him to Portland.
*tin foil hat on* I also believe Cronin (Blazers’ GM) did his buddies in LAC a favor and dealt Powell and Covington for virtually nothing.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:34 am to theducks
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Y’all do know brmark is the same guy that tried arguing a player’s prime is 19-22 and they retire at 27 or some shite two years ago, right?
CJ is a dinosaur to him
BRMark has an issue with how to do a proper data sample and analyze it.
He tends to draw very specific conclusions using poorly sampled data and it leads to a lot of his wild conclusions. Such as, BI is already past his prime and players like him have their primes at 23-24.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:36 am to brmark70816
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I don't know. Maybe 2, Curry and Durant. It wouldn't be hard to find out. Only a few people a year, if that, score 30ppg.
Not sure what your point is with that.
My point is that I meant to type 20 ppg
You can't compare someone like CJ to someone like PJ Tucker, CJ has started in 493 games and has averaged over 20 ppg in those starts. Those are far from average numbers.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:56 am to Epic Cajun
Anyone have updated Pels cap numbers going forward?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:08 am to brmark70816
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He basically said Hart is a better deal.
And he was wrong.
He was shitting on what the pels gave up for "an old non-all star".
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:29 am to Chalkywhite84
People thought CJ was washed because he and Dame are a bad combo defensively.
He proved what he can bring when paired with some defensive talent that compliments him.
He proved what he can bring when paired with some defensive talent that compliments him.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:50 am to teke184
If someone said CJ was washed doesn’t watch basketball. Maybe question if he can run the point but he can always score and shot the 3.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:06 am to brmark70816
Hollinger is acting like it was a guarantee we’d get your pick with how he wrote that article. He also over values cap space.
Most reactions around th r league at the time was that y’all risked very little to get a sure thing multi level scorer that is low key a good facilitator.
Most reactions around th r league at the time was that y’all risked very little to get a sure thing multi level scorer that is low key a good facilitator.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:07 am to Bronc
I was just re-reading that thread for shits and giggles last night
Brmark has some of the more unique takes out there. Probably because of the way he likes to interpret data and then project it.
Brmark has some of the more unique takes out there. Probably because of the way he likes to interpret data and then project it.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:36 am to theducks
Hes a frickin idiot. Hes a master troll or mentally handicapped. Nobody agrees with him on any of his takes here.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:01 am to theducks
quote:thats because the pels risked very little to get a sure thing multi level scorer that is low key a good facilitator
Most reactions around th r league at the time was that y’all risked very little to get a sure thing multi level scorer that is low key a good facilitator.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:02 am to cgrand
90 percentile of PNR Ball Handlers
Frankly the criticism that was out there(and to be clear it was aplenty, including normally good analysts like Lowe that "Meh'd" the trade), you'd hear things like the Pels need a guy that can run the PnR, shoot, play off ball, get his own look, defend, and run the offense some. And it was like yeah, we do, and we got him, his name is CJ.
He's not a great defender but he checks off every other box. Then suddenly it felt like by the playoffs everyone that did doubt was eating their words.
Frankly the criticism that was out there(and to be clear it was aplenty, including normally good analysts like Lowe that "Meh'd" the trade), you'd hear things like the Pels need a guy that can run the PnR, shoot, play off ball, get his own look, defend, and run the offense some. And it was like yeah, we do, and we got him, his name is CJ.
He's not a great defender but he checks off every other box. Then suddenly it felt like by the playoffs everyone that did doubt was eating their words.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 10:08 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 3:06 pm to theducks
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Probably because of the way he likes to interpret data and then project it.
One could call it a disability.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 3:11 pm to theducks
quote:Yep, he said something about NBA players usually not playing more than 10 years, and swore up and down that BI is more than halfway through his career because of that.
Y’all do know brmark is the same guy that tried arguing a player’s prime is 19-22 and they retire at 27 or some shite two years ago, right?
He doesn't really have any concept of how average data(still not even sure where the 10 year became avg but I digress) doesn't necessarily apply to everyone, and he just assumes everyone will fall under the exact averages.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:00 pm to shel311
For a group so obsessed with what I say, nobody seems to remember any details or numbers correctly. Just misquote and misrepresent everything I have ever said. I guess it is to be expected. But it is all libel and just not true.
It is refreshing that I am so correct and on point that others abandoned the topic, then tried to rehash some old debate from like a year ago. So I'll just take the win and figure everybody has moved on. Good talk..
It is refreshing that I am so correct and on point that others abandoned the topic, then tried to rehash some old debate from like a year ago. So I'll just take the win and figure everybody has moved on. Good talk..
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:04 pm to brmark70816
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It is refreshing that I am so correct and on point that others abandoned the topic, then tried to rehash some old debate from like a year ago. So I'll just take the win and figure everybody has moved on. Good talk..
This would be a dodging the entire responses that posters laid out for you.
But the point being, you say stupid shite, all year round.
This will be another thread you’ll be crying about.
As others have said, you have mental disability when it comes to analyzing data.
I think you’re just retarded.
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