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re: chris paul nixed pels trade for curry and klay

Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27304 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:23 pm to
Seriously
You are arguing just to argue

Slow day at the office
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111083 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:19 pm to
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Seriously
You are arguing just to argue

Slow day at the office
Sorry I'm right?

Cause I am.
Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
3501 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:56 am to
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Let’s be honest, Curry and Klay wouldn’t be anywhere near as good in NOLA


My first thought as well
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
217 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:41 am to
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He never refused the trade, he even stated they could do this trade. He would then fulfill his contractual obligation with the Warriors.

He didn't refuse to be traded, he didn't say he wouldn't report. If he did those things, then yea, that would be a solid point. But he didn't so it isn't.


He didn't have to say anything... he didn't have to say he wouldn't resign, all had to do was work the trade, and if he decided to leave after his contract was up just leave. Even if they asked him would he resign, all he had to say was that's something he hadn't thought about, and would see how things were when the time came, but to say "you can trade for me, but I'm not resigning" was a punk move, and he forced New Orleans hand with that weak Clippers trade.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10954 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:51 am to
Who here thinks Steph Curry and Klay Thompson would have developed into the players they are under the coaching and management that settled from the dust of the imploding Shinn ownership?

Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8747 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:07 am to
Gotta give AD credit. Atleast he gave us a shitload for him
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25723 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:14 am to
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He didn't have to say anything... he didn't have to say he wouldn't resign, all had to do was work the trade, and if he decided to leave after his contract was up just leave. Even if they asked him would he resign, all he had to say was that's something he hadn't thought about, and would see how things were when the time came, but to say "you can trade for me, but I'm not resigning" was a punk move, and he forced New Orleans



Haha ok. That’s not how that has ever worked.

Why are yall mad at CP3 for wanting to leave? Give me a good reason why he should have wanted to stay?

Have any of you ever rejected a job offer, bunch of jerk assholes for not wanting to take that job if you ask me. Why can’t CP3 do the same, or any other nba player.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111083 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:25 am to
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He didn't have to say anything... he didn't have to say he wouldn't resign, all had to do was work the trade, and if he decided to leave after his contract was up just leave.
Oh my, that's adorable.

You think the Warriors would have traded for Paul without assurance that he would sign an extension.

C'mon man, that's a terrible take, and you know it.

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Even if they asked him would he resign, all he had to say was that's something he hadn't thought about, and would see how things were when the time came, but to say "you can trade for me, but I'm not resigning" was a punk move, and he forced New Orleans hand with that weak Clippers trade.
Ah, so you would be 100% ok if a player that we traded for lied to us about extending, right? Yea, of course you wouldn't. There is no logic or consistency in anything you've said in that post.

Also, again that's a terrible take because GS was never ever ever ever ever going to make that trade without Paul agreeing to the extension. It's that simple.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111083 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:26 am to
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Give me a good reason why he should have wanted to stay?
He should have wanted to stay because he played for MY Favorite team.

That's it, that's the reason.

Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:40 am to
My guess, Steph Curry would be retired after having his foot amputated from the ankle down and Klay would have walked eventually.

No chance given the state of the franchise at the time that we would have fostered the right organizational structure to replicate even a fraction of the Warriors success.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25723 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:20 am to
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He should have wanted to stay because he played for MY Favorite team.

That's it, that's the reason.



that's what's happening here. A lot of people not remembering the situation we were in at this time. We just finished a game out from the top seed in the west, and lost in the conference semi's to the defending champs in 7 games.
Despite the injuries the next year, still finished with 49 wins, yet our poor as shite owner tried to trade away Tyson for nothing more than cost cutting, letting his team know he was all about money, and didn't care about winning despite having a near championship caliber roster with a young guy that should have been the league MVP the previous year. the team fell apart after that trade was tried, even though it didn't go through.
THey got embarrassed by Denver in the playoffs, and the parts that i remember about that series is CP3 playing his arse off and getting knocked down constantly with his few healthy teammates doing nothing to help him.
After that season, they got rid of Chandler, got rid of Byron Scott, and hired someone who had a resume of assistant coach for Marist 15 years ago in Jeff Bower. Didn't make the playoffs and CP3 was hurt half the year.

Then we hire Monty, and the NBA owns the team, finish decent enough with 46 wins, and lose to the Lakers in 6.

SO why would CP3 want to stay on a team that is owned by the NBA, and has no idea what direction the team is going b/c they have no owner and have shown they don't care about winning? Benson didn't buy the team until months after CP3 was traded.
Posted by 50407Tiger
Member since Oct 2019
1227 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:36 am to
Now this is a good Hornets history lesson, thank you for being logical and stating factual events and not hypotheticals.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:46 am to
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Why are yall mad at CP3 for wanting to leave? Give me a good reason why he should have wanted to stay?


i get that.
but why not agree to play at sf bay?
his statement in story is " its hilly".
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111083 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:56 am to
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but why not agree to play at sf bay?
Because he didn't want to.

He doesn't need any more reason than that to not sign an extension.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25723 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:00 pm to
who gives a shite why he didn't want to play for GSW.


CP3 gave us everything he had for 6 years. He would have played for anyone that we traded him too, i guarantee that, doesn't mean he had to resign there. There's nothing wrong with him saying it's very unlikely i resign with you if you trade for me, and this has been happening in the NBA for a while now. doesn't matter what his reasoning was for not wanting to resign with the trade partner. it's his life and his career.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:55 pm to
Ive hated him since he left, mostly because he’s always a fricking a-hole.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111083 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Ive hated him since he left, mostly because he’s always a fricking a-hole.

Based on this post, you don't hate him mostly because he was always an a-hole, you admitted that you hate him because he left, fwiw.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:24 pm to
CP3 slowly evolved into one of my most hated players in the league.

However, none of that had to do with his time here.

The guy gave us his prime, he was a model citizen that still does community outreach int he community to this day. Still had a place here up until a couple years ago.

He helped foster perhaps the best team culture we have had as a franchise.

It was ownership that let us down, not CP3.

When we decided that cost savings by way of our third(or arguably second) best player was more important than winning, it was ownership that failed us. When we decided that Jeff Bower and 2k ratings was better than fully staffing a front office, it was ownership that let us down. I don’t blame CP3, at all. Ownership failed him, ownership failed all of us, and had he not forced his hand it is very possible we never reach the bottom that was necessary to get rid of Shinn for good.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 6:26 pm
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13538 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 6:18 am to
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think I was better off not knowing this.



this
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25723 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:44 am to
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CP3 slowly evolved into one of my most hated players in the league.

However, none of that had to do with his time here.


THat is what is happening in this thread.
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