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re: Chad Ford Lottery Mock Draft

Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:44 pm to
No problem I think you could make a legit case for both. With Smart actually showing you more on the court so far and McLemore having more upside.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:45 pm to
Rudy Gay is much more explosvie than Porter. He's more of a below the rim type player ala Danny Granger
Posted by The Future
Smallville, KS
Member since Oct 2009
22661 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:49 pm to
I want Otto, shabazz has a horrible attitude and won't succeed at the next level without a change in that as well as developing a game besides what he has now
Posted by ssgtiger
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:50 pm to
Oh and by the way, comparing Smart to Paul is an awful comparison. He has been compared alot more to James Harden maybe even Jason Kidd. He is nothing like the type of player Paul is. Is a big physical guard that fills it up.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22230 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:54 pm to
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Oh and by the way, comparing Smart to Paul is an awful comparison. He has been compared alot more to James Harden
Both are awful comparisons for Smart.

Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41125 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Is a big physical guard that fills it up.


at an awful clip

40% from the field
under 30% from 3

thats terrible in the college game

Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74456 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:01 pm to
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James Harden maybe even Jason Kidd.


So would that mean that these two are similar players?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:05 pm to
Would a worse shooting, worse assisting John Wall be a good comparison? Stats including turnovers are pretty similar.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:12 pm to
Deron Williams body type

Deron Williams style of play at Illinois

Similar stats to Deron Williams at Illinois.

This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 1:14 pm
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22230 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Would a worse shooting, worse assisting John Wall be a good comparison? Stats including turnovers are pretty similar.
Sounds about right to me and thats not good

Flip Saunders was on SVP last week and they talked about his time coaching Wall. He mentioned just how bad a shooter he is and how it he'd never be elite if he didn't improve.

He also talked about his pick and roll defense being awful. Which goes to show that just being a great athlete doesn't make you a good defender.
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:38 pm to
According to this we'd take Smart at #1 Overall, which wouldn't make sense imo because of GV, and Porter then Shabazz at pretty much every other spot.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19528 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:44 pm to
I really haven't watched Smart this year

Is Deron Williams the best comparison?

Regardless, starting PG is really the least of our problems.

If we somehow lucked into the first or second pick and it's a choice between McLemore and Smart, I go McLemore every time.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:46 pm to
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Both are awful comparisons for Smart.


Not saying that I would compare him to harden, just that it a player a lot of people have compared him to.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:50 pm to
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So would that mean that these two are similar players?


So if a player is compared to 2 players those 2 have to be the same type player. Is it not possible for a player to have similar aspects?

As far as, the Harden comparison I don't particularly see it. I was just stating that many have compared him to Harden. With Kidd I think they are both big PGs with a less than excellent shot, but an explosive game. BTW I'm talking about early Kidd.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:00 pm to
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So if a player is compared to 2 players those 2 have to be the same type player. Is it not possible for a player to have similar aspects?


Yes, both comparisons should be similar if he is similar to both. That said, Harden and Kidd are about as different as two guards can be, so it makes it even more glaring.
Posted by kelevra
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
152 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:04 pm to
I would MUCH rather take Oladipo over Shabazz
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:09 pm to
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Yes, both comparisons should be similar if he is similar to both. That said, Harden and Kidd are about as different as two guards can be, so it makes it even more glaring.


I still love how no one seems to grasp reading comprehension. One more time. I was naming players that others compared him too.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:21 pm to
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I still love how no one seems to grasp reading comprehension. One more time. I was naming players that others compared him too.


Okay, and considering that those players are nothing alike, it's probably safe to say one of them is an inaccurate comparison. Don't be so defensive, dog.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:26 pm to
So it is not possible for a player to have aspects of both?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:28 pm to
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With Kidd I think they are both big PGs with a less than excellent shot, but an explosive game. BTW I'm talking about early Kidd.


I just ran some stats for comparison and Smart did look comparable to Kidd with defensive stats like rebounding and steals. But his shooting is just really, really bad compared to other big guards that have become stars. It boggles my mind how he can be considered a top pick while shooting much worse than other guys that weren't considered good shooters and took several years just to become adequate. He also does turn the ball over significantly more than everyone else.



*stats are from the last college season for each player.


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