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re: Celtics will move Kemba this offseason
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:14 am to 504Voodoo
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:14 am to 504Voodoo
I don't mind Walker even in his current state as long as we can adequately replace Adams. Walker's contract fits in with what Griffin wants. Allows flexibility going into Zion's second contract and gives the team an opportunity to take the next step. I think with ainge out and with Boston's huge need for a quality big man like Adams, it could make sense for both sides.
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:20 am to supe12sta12z
No thanks on Kemba.
We've already played this game with Bledsoe. Taking on a declining athletically guard from a team that desperately wants to dump him.
What could go wrong?
Dude isn't going to want to be here at this stage of his career and I could see him free fall in production just like Bled.
We've already played this game with Bledsoe. Taking on a declining athletically guard from a team that desperately wants to dump him.
What could go wrong?
Dude isn't going to want to be here at this stage of his career and I could see him free fall in production just like Bled.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:26 am to 504Voodoo
When he drives to the basket, he's still very good at it. Yes he's lost a little bit, and yes there's a risk/reward, but the possible reward and not having to give up any assets maybe greater than the risk, and you still maintain your financial flexibility along with a full war chest of assets.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:29 am to Soggymoss
The problem is you can't afford another mis-judging of on court impact like Griff did with Bledsoe/Adams. I'd have a bad contract swap like Buddy above Kemba and Love just because of the injury issues those 2 have.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:32 am to TigerinATL
You can't just sit there and do nothing either. There has to be some smart risks taken this offseason. If those risks allow you to get out of both Bledsoe/Adams while allowing you to maintain future flexibility, it's probably one that should be considered.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:46 am to Soggymoss
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Yes he's lost a little bit
You could have said the same about Bledsoe before this season, but then his poor attitude and lack of effort turned "a little bit" into "pretty much everything"
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:52 am to supe12sta12z
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You can't just sit there and do nothing either.
This offseason you HAVE to upgrade Bledsoe with a starting caliber guard and replace JJ. You also may need to bring in another big to handle the bruisers if you move Adams.
Replacing Bledsoe is the trickiest one because if you can't get someone like Brogdon you'll have to take a chance on someone like Kemba.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:54 am to ghost2most
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We've already played this game with Bledsoe. Taking on a declining athletically guard from a team that desperately wants to dump him.
I wouldn't compare Kemba to Bledsoe. Kemba at his worst puts up numbers that Bledsoe was putting up in his prime. Kemba won't be the all star he once was, but he's still a HUGE upgrade offensively, and TBH, from Bleds performance on the defensive end this season he can't be much worse.
If Boston includes the first I'm all for that swap. The contract is bad but it's only 1 extra year.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:00 am to Not Cooper
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:07 am to Not Cooper
Kemba is a clutch player, and no i'm not looking at stats to prove it. He's always had the attitude required to be clutch, and that's more than half the battle. He's not going to score 25 a night, and we don't need him to. If he can make important baskets in the last 4 minutes of games, that's what we really need. He is someone that can take the pressure off BI and Zion, and he doesn't have to do it by scoring a lot, just by scoring at critical times, and i think he's still savvy enough to get that done, even if his athleticism has taken a hit.
I think it would be very wise to trade for Kemba if it means not having to give up much. These are the kinds of chances you have to take in New Orleans, and it's not even that big of a chance considering he's only got 2 years left on his contract.
Get Kemba, and send Lonzo to Dallas in a S&T swap for Tim Hardaway Jr. If that can't take the pressure off of BI and Zion, nothing will.
I think it would be very wise to trade for Kemba if it means not having to give up much. These are the kinds of chances you have to take in New Orleans, and it's not even that big of a chance considering he's only got 2 years left on his contract.
Get Kemba, and send Lonzo to Dallas in a S&T swap for Tim Hardaway Jr. If that can't take the pressure off of BI and Zion, nothing will.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:19 am to TigerinATL
If Kemba came back from his injury and looked horrible I would agree with you. The last part of the season he was playing at an all star level and actually started looking a bit more like his old self.
Now if a Beal, Dame or someone like that becomes available then it's a no brainer to make that trade instead, but swapping Bledsoe and Adams for Kemba is still a good trade. You're not really taking on THAT much extra money, and you still have 35-40 million in room under the tax, so you can still keep Lonzo and/or Hart and still have money left to fill out the roster.
Now if a Beal, Dame or someone like that becomes available then it's a no brainer to make that trade instead, but swapping Bledsoe and Adams for Kemba is still a good trade. You're not really taking on THAT much extra money, and you still have 35-40 million in room under the tax, so you can still keep Lonzo and/or Hart and still have money left to fill out the roster.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:23 am to jmcwhrter
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This dude has us trading Ingram + Adams for Kemba + Jaylen Brown
I'd do that.
Jaylen Brown can score with BI, and he's one of the best defenders in the league at a premier defensive position. I'd rather Brown than BI.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:35 am to TeddyPadillac
so we're right back to searching for a SF?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:35 am to TigerinATL
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We're probably going to be looking at making the best of a bad contract swap like Kemba or Buddy or Kevin Love.
I think this is what is likely to happen. What about Bertrans? I’ve read they may want to get off his contract. He’s way overpaid but would def elevate our outside game. Wonder if they would take Bledsoe for him since his contract is expiring.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:45 am to Townedrunkard
That's alot of money for someone that at best is a backup on this roster.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:46 am to jmcwhrter
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so we're right back to searching for a SF?
come again?
Jaylen Brown is an actual SF. He can actually guard SF's. BI cannot guard the top SF's in the league, therefor, i don't truly consider him a SF. You are who you can defend.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:58 am to TeddyPadillac
Jaylen Brown is a better all around player then Ingram for a SF. Ingram is better offensively, but no where near him in defense.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:01 am to saints5021
To add more to gauge his value around the league, Boston will have to pay to get someone to take him.
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Report: Boston Celtics and San Antonio Spurs discussed swapping Kemba Walker for LaMarcus Aldridge prior to trade deadline LINK
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:11 am to Soggymoss
so somewhere between Aldridge and Jrue
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:25 am to jmcwhrter
Celtics value him like Jrue
Rest of league values him as someone they wouldn't swap for a guy that will buyout.
Huge gap, but if they want to trade him they will have to give up stuff, or take back a bad deal.
Rest of league values him as someone they wouldn't swap for a guy that will buyout.
Huge gap, but if they want to trade him they will have to give up stuff, or take back a bad deal.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 11:26 am
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