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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:27 am to ShamelessPel
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I don't know man. Tatum and Brown looked like world beaters in the postseason last year
I guess that's my point.. Tatum Brown and Rozier looked like all-stars during the playoffs when the games meant everything
Now that it's regular season they've come back to Earth somewhat..
What happens when it's regular season games for a team almost certain to be lottery bound for a couple of seasons?
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:28 am to cgrand
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nerlens noel
bummed the Pels either didn't go after or couldn't get him on a vet minimum this past summer.
would have filled a huge hole as backup rim protector
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:36 am to jmcwhrter
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I guess that's my point.. Tatum Brown and Rozier looked like all-stars during the playoffs when the games meant everything
Now that it's regular season they've come back to Earth somewhat..
What happens when it's regular season games for a team almost certain to be lottery bound for a couple of seasons?
If you ask yourself what's different this year from that postseason team that could cause the dip in production...the first thing that should come to mind should be Kyrie Irving and what his game does to these guys' production. The next would be how inserting a rehabbing Gordon Hayward into the rotation, a guy who plays these guys' position, affects their production.
Regular season intensity vs playoff intensity shouldn't be discounted entirely, but it's pretty far down the list for me personally.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:43 am to Crewz
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How would you build around those two?
Fun Bunch summarized it pretty well.
I would put a little extra emphasis on defense.
I don't really care about the pace if we're being more efficient and getting more stops than the other team.
What I don't want is pace for the sake of pace when we're too sloppy with the ball to consistently play up-tempo and don't play adequate defense.
The players obviously have to fit the strategy moving forward in terms of style of play. While I'm not advocating for change in that regard, I do think it needs to be revisited and reevaluated before moves are made.
I would hope this has already been done and/or is being done.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:46 am to ShamelessPel
I want the best point guard I can get my hands on....period. I still view the NBA Pg to a QB in the NFL. You can get all of the Calvin Johnson’s (Anthony Davis’) you want. But without a PG, your team is going to struggle.
Nobody really wants centers anymore, and I feel the PF position is the easiest to fill. Defensive rebounding center, and any PF that can help score is fine. But we have to get a better floor general than this team is used to.
Draft, trading picks, FA, I don’t care.
Nobody really wants centers anymore, and I feel the PF position is the easiest to fill. Defensive rebounding center, and any PF that can help score is fine. But we have to get a better floor general than this team is used to.
Draft, trading picks, FA, I don’t care.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:48 am to Jon1798
And just to be simple, something I've been saying for years:
WINGS WINGS WINGS WINGS WINGS
Get some freaking wings.
WINGS WINGS WINGS WINGS WINGS
Get some freaking wings.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:50 am to Crewz
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I don't believe you can re-train high usage guys to be lower usage guys unless you are winning at a massive clip.
Pop probably could. It's mainly ego-based so it's doable but how do you convince a player to improve.
Julius is a good test case. He gets 25 but gives up 30? What factors in Julius's game make him consistent in this? Regression analysis can fix this and basketball is the only game with the easiest measurable factors. Players just need a TL:DR analytical report before games. And just say "hey, this isn't a report card or write up. It's just notes to take away any vulnerabilities you have".
I think one of the biggest unspoken factors to the Warriors's success is the in-house data analytics provided by Oracle. Doubt we invest in something like that, but if Gentry would be open to it, I'd provide it to the organization for peanuts lol.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 11:52 am
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:53 am to hometownhero89
Pop is with a franchise that can point to titles and say, "We know how to do this" and players fall in line
We don't have that power here and can't anytime soon. Unless you wanna go out and hire Phil Jackson
We don't have that power here and can't anytime soon. Unless you wanna go out and hire Phil Jackson
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:58 am to Crewz
If you make the Celtics trade, you get a good core to build around. I’d try to keep Mirotic if we can. That gives you:
Smart/Elf
Jrue
Tatum/Brown
Mirotic
Okafor
Then look at guys like Jaxson Hayes, Bol Bol, Charles Bassey or Reddish, depending on where we draft. Jrue and Smart are the only real defenders of that bunch, but maybe you can get a big that can defend in the draft or FA.
Smart/Elf
Jrue
Tatum/Brown
Mirotic
Okafor
Then look at guys like Jaxson Hayes, Bol Bol, Charles Bassey or Reddish, depending on where we draft. Jrue and Smart are the only real defenders of that bunch, but maybe you can get a big that can defend in the draft or FA.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:00 pm to Crewz
I mean LSU has a nice business analytics department and open source is the way of the future.
The whole mind set that there's some allegorical plateau to climb to achieve this is bullshite is what i'm saying. Pop's lack of fear and a no-win scenario mindset are why he's successful.
Phil is not following the avant garde styles of info on the game and it makes sense since he was never really in a place where it was big. Funny enough in the previous year's 2K the numbers guy was seen as crazy but in the end right. That irony is something lol.
If the Gayle and Mickey want to keep their consistency of instituting a cheap and viable solution then one's out there that might be local and of equal value.
The whole mind set that there's some allegorical plateau to climb to achieve this is bullshite is what i'm saying. Pop's lack of fear and a no-win scenario mindset are why he's successful.
Phil is not following the avant garde styles of info on the game and it makes sense since he was never really in a place where it was big. Funny enough in the previous year's 2K the numbers guy was seen as crazy but in the end right. That irony is something lol.
If the Gayle and Mickey want to keep their consistency of instituting a cheap and viable solution then one's out there that might be local and of equal value.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:13 pm to saints5021
Beal and Tatum is what we should be pushing for... Beal has actually looked good with the ball in his hands ever since wall went down and it helps that he’s a sharp shooter it’s almost like it makes too much sense. Also I like the idea of Harrel the only problem is I’m sure other teams are will throw big money at him too.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:16 pm to DMCfan1331
Jrue Beal Tatum makes a scary lineup and some fillers in and add Harrel and we have a game... Elfrid hasn’t shown me anything tbh
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:17 pm to Crewz
Media tryn to push a Lakers trade before deadline before Boston can get involved and before we know what NY's pick will be.
I wouldnt mind dealing with Lakers but this is the only trade id accept...
First yall gonna give up ALL young assets. That means Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Heart and Zubac!
Next you gonna give up 4 draft picks... 1st in 2019 and 2021 and 2nd in 2020 and 2022.
Third, if yall taking our best player yall also taking our worst contract, LA say hello to Solomon Hill!
Finally to make the deal work the Lakers are forced to throw in Caldwell-Pope and Lance Stephenson while the Pels throw in Frazier.
This deal gives the Lakers a Bron and AD pairing but depletes their roster and prevents them from being players in FA this offseason but hey, how bad you want AD?
Any other deal the Pels should wait till summer and trade AD elsewhere.
I wouldnt mind dealing with Lakers but this is the only trade id accept...
First yall gonna give up ALL young assets. That means Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Heart and Zubac!
Next you gonna give up 4 draft picks... 1st in 2019 and 2021 and 2nd in 2020 and 2022.
Third, if yall taking our best player yall also taking our worst contract, LA say hello to Solomon Hill!
Finally to make the deal work the Lakers are forced to throw in Caldwell-Pope and Lance Stephenson while the Pels throw in Frazier.
This deal gives the Lakers a Bron and AD pairing but depletes their roster and prevents them from being players in FA this offseason but hey, how bad you want AD?
Any other deal the Pels should wait till summer and trade AD elsewhere.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:17 pm to DMCfan1331
And how do you get Beal???
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:22 pm to Crewz
Well the luxury tax is something that’s on our side... assuming we still have Niko and Brown being in the Boston trade... Do you think Niko plus brown and a pick would work?
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:25 pm to DMCfan1331
Not even close. Imagine an item costs $70. You just offered $15
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:33 pm to Crewz
Ok so do you think we have enough or can get enough for Beal and do you think he is on our board?
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:35 pm to Crewz
Also if we stan pat I was thinking the deal would be more like Randle Niko brown smart and a couple first for Beal
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:36 pm to DMCfan1331
Beal is not for trade. No matter how many scenarios you try to push, it’s not going to change that.
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