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re: Annual Trade Thread, Beal to Suns, Porzingas to Boston

Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7780 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:37 pm to
Yeah, I'm just not seeing it. I see another injury riddled year for KD and Beal.

We complain about Ingram but here's Beal's games played the last few seasons.

60, 40, 50

He's turning 30.

Durant will be 35.

They better win it this year because the wheels will fall off soon and they will have zero bench.

I'm not a believer at all. This screams Lakers with Westbrook all over imo.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78854 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Sure they can, all are solid to greater shooters who can be effective without the ball in their hands

Bradley Beal played with Rustle Westbrook in 2020-2021, his stats that year:

31.3 ppg/4.7 rpg/ 4.4 apg on 48/35/89 splits


They had a trading 2s for 3s problem that Beal does not solve. He started his career as a good 3 pt shooter but his volume and efficiency have fallen off the last 5 years.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11233 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:14 pm to
Beal had his best year this past season in 4 years. He had great efficiency and averaged 23/4/5. He had great efficiency and is still a top 5 guard. Booker can play SF, Durant is playing PF. That is your 2, 3, and 4. Ayton is probably still the Center. Just need a PG and a bench. I can't think of a team that has a better big 3 on paper..
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3454 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:17 pm to
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this is us in 5 years if BI continues the injury consistency

Lol. Now do Zion.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17451 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:18 pm to
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top 5 guard

He’s never been a top 5 guard…
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13958 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:40 pm to
So Beal is old and won’t help but he’s younger than CJ. And look at our two ‘stars,’ most injury riddled pair in the league. And many of you think the Suns are in trouble?
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55982 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:48 pm to
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Lol. Now do Zion.
both are definitely an issue
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78854 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:04 pm to
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Beal had his best year this past season in 4 years. He had great efficiency and averaged 23/4/5

His 3 pt% rose from the bad territory it was in but he also took the fewest 3 attempts he's taken in 8 seasons.
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and is still a top 5 guard.

Steph, Booker, Luka, SGA, Ja, Murray, Dame, Mitchell, Fox, Kyrie when he decides to play, Harden before the playoffs. You sure?
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 7:52 am to
For those who think the Suns are gonna win it all now that they have Beal, do you think the current iteration of KD, Beal and Booker is better than the previous iteration of KD, Kyrie and Harden?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103165 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 7:57 am to
I think Beal will be on the court more than Kyrie was in Brooklyn.

I don’t necessarily see this group as a winner, especially considering how stripped they are for assets unless they get something for Ayton.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3328 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:40 am to
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So Beal is old and won’t help but he’s younger than CJ. And look at our two ‘stars,’ most injury riddled pair in the league. And many of you think the Suns are in trouble?


Yeah because they have no assets compared to the Pelicans. They literally have 4 maxed out guys with barely a bench.

If you want to talk about age

Kevin Durant 34
Devin Booker 26
Bradley Beal 29
Deandre Ayton 24

Zion Williamson 22
Brandon Ingram 25
Cj Mccollum 31


I don’t think you can called us the most injury riddled pair when they have PG and Kawhi Leonard.

Regular season games missed by notable players since the 2019-20 season:

Klay Thompson - 199*
Zion Williamson - 171*
Kevin Durant - 155
Kawhi Leonard - 144
Kyrie Irving - 137
Jamal Murray - 134
Lonzo Ball - 132
Ben Simmons - 128
Michael Porter Jr. - 119
Anthony Davis - 111
Paul George - 110
Stephen Curry - 107
LeBron James - 71
Joel Embiid - 69
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8737 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:37 am to
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For those who think the Suns are gonna win it all now that they have Beal, do you think the current iteration of KD, Beal and Booker is better than the previous iteration of KD, Kyrie and Harden?


No, but they don’t have to be better to win the title. That Brooklyn trio was clearly the best team in the league imo. Health will be a big question mark for this Phoenix bunch, just like it was for Brooklyn
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103165 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:41 am to
Talent only goes so far if it doesn’t mesh well.

It would also help if they were able to counter Denver, who just won a title. Denver has their own injury issues but they just pimp slapped most of the league in the playoffs.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4939 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:29 am to
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Also this is us in 5 years if BI continues the injury consistency


You mean him playing right around the league average of games played most years?
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4939 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:50 am to
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Klay Thompson - 199*
Zion Williamson - 171*
Kevin Durant - 155
Kawhi Leonard - 144
Kyrie Irving - 137
Jamal Murray - 134
Lonzo Ball - 132
Ben Simmons - 128
Michael Porter Jr. - 119
Anthony Davis - 111
Paul George - 110
Stephen Curry - 107
LeBron James - 71
Joel Embiid - 69


But but but Ingram isn't on that list, and a guy that just won a championship is...

And if the sarcasm and it's meaning was missed, Ingram's injuries are being overblown because of last year, and players can always suddenly turn it around (Zion).
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55982 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:19 pm to
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You mean him playing right around the league average of games played most years?
well we all know too when he comes back from injury he’s half the player he is when healthy for an additional 2 weeks. Everytime without fail.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8737 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 1:47 pm to
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It would also help if they were able to counter Denver, who just won a title. Denver has their own injury issues but they just pimp slapped most of the league in the playoffs.


I think they will. I'd bet my next paycheck that Ayton is traded this summer for some role players, probably a defensive minded center who doesn't do much more than catch lobs and putbacks on offense, and then another big wing to combat the Nuggets' size.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17451 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:14 pm to
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Sources: Wizards, Celtics and Clippers are in strong talks on a trade that would send Kristaps Porzingis to Boston, Marcus Morris and draft compensation to Washington and Malcolm Brogdon to Los Angeles. Sides are still working through details and Porzingis’ $36M player option.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46872 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:34 pm to
DANG...
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55982 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:42 pm to
Welp clippers just got better
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