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re: 32-22, 10 games over .500, 5th in West
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:01 am to 3PieceSpicy
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:01 am to 3PieceSpicy
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It does to cerebral baws. It simply means there are t many teams in the nba that aren’t trash. Probably 6 legit teams and we haven’t proven to be one of them. We are just an above average scrap heap team.
Let’s win a playoff series before we try and proclaim that being 32-22 means something.
My god what would it take to make some of you miserable shits happy. Even when the team is good/on pace to have one of the best records in franchise history, everyone is a nega Pel. This board is a cesspool of crap posters now.
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:05 am to iwyLSUiwy
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This board is a cesspool of crap posters now.
Yep.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:06 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:There's a whole bunch of exit ramps between crowning this team and hating this team.
Just let the perpetually mad stay mad. No point in trying to be reasonable around here.
We're on pace for 49 wins and are currently the 5 seed. If you told me that before the season, I'd say that's good.
We've also had our best 2 players healthy and are 1 game ahead of the 8 seed. If you told me that before the season, I'd say that's not good.
The team has work to do and is still in serious danger of not getting out of the play in. I don't care if we win 50 games, if we're in the play in, that's a pretty massive failure if our 2 dudes are healthy.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:09 am to ned nederlander
quote:No, why would it?
If the Pels do get to 50 wins does Willie win coach of the year?
If we win 50 games, we'll likely have about the 8th or so best record in the league.
Willie will have zero shot of being ahead of the coaches from OKC and MIN.
quote:Most good teams don't have a true point guard. We have a solid backup center, and we have a solid bench. No clue where you were going with 3 of those 4 points lol.
Pelicans have a good chance of getting 50 wins for the just the second time ever. This despite a transparently fat super star, no true point guard, no backup center, and a bench of Naji, nance, Alvarado and Murphy.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 9:10 am
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:11 am to shel311
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I don't care if we win 50 games, if we're in the play in,
If there's 7 teams with 50 or more wins that's probably the most unprecedented shite I will have ever seen as an NBA fan.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:17 am to shel311
Our best players are healthy and have proven they aren’t stars. That’s depressing because the playoff are all about how good you stars are. We have without a doubt the worst stars of any west team that will make the playoffs
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:31 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:2014-2015
If there's 7 teams with 50 or more wins that's probably the most unprecedented shite I will have ever seen as an NBA fan.
6 teams in the West won 55, and a 7th won 50
Pels were 8th, of course lol.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:33 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:Exactly, there's context to all of this
Our best players are healthy and have proven they aren’t stars. That’s depressing because the playoff are all about how good you stars are. We have without a doubt the worst stars of any west team that will make the playoffs
If we won 49 games and got a 5 seed in the West with our top duo looking like a top 3 duo in the league but we just needed to give them a little more help, that would be a great place to be.
If we win 49 games and get a 5 seed with a deep team but you see your top duo is nowhere near the level they need to be to compete with other teams' top duos in the playoffs, that's not a great place to be.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:37 am to Balsamic_duck
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We have without a doubt the worst stars of any west team that will make the playoffs
CJ was recently asked about his success this year and he talked about the work he did and working on the shots he knew he was going to get in the areas where he knew he was going to get them. What if Zion comes into camp in actual game shape so he can run Point Zion all year and slot BI into a more off ball role and BI improves like CJ has?
The frustrating thing about this team are there are still so many little things weighing them down that it's hard to tell how good they can actually be.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:44 am to shel311
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If we won 49 games and got a 5 seed in the West with our top duo looking like a top 3 duo in the league but we just needed to give them a little more help, that would be a great place to be.
Did anybody expect our duo to be top 3 in the league? That's a pretty unreasonable expectation/standard to have. If we're going to do something in the playoffs it's because of our top 6, not top 2. Similar to how the Jimmy Butler led Heat have won.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:53 am to Balsamic_duck
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Our best players are healthy and have proven they aren’t stars. That’s depressing because the playoff are all about how good you stars are. We have without a doubt the worst stars of any west team that will make the playoffs
To make me feel better about our future...I have decided to start thinking of Herb as one of our "best players" (and a star). Maybe a bit of a stretch, at the moment, but probably just a matter of time. BTW: Feel free to join me...& remove one of our current players of your choice, from your current "best" list.
For this discussion...I consider "best" to mean...a player who gives you your best shot to win a playoff game...ya know...when teams are really tryin' to win. JMO: I COULD be wrong.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 9:57 am
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:54 am to shel311
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there's context to all of this
The only real hope is Zion takes this asb seriously (frick) and works on conditioning and his handles and adds that 12 footer. It sounds like a lot over a week, but hes got the fricking pieces to the puzzle already.
There's also the whole big moment so stars finally show up thing too that I have no problem believing as an irrationally hopeful Pels fan.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 10:04 am
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:18 am to iwyLSUiwy
Its not unreasonable. BI and Z are both players that can put 40 on your head. Look at them now. Neither will sniff an all star. Not with this team anyway. Out here scoring 14 points against the G League Grizzlies. This team is tripping.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:25 am to southsidedell
quote:They are, but not really.
BI and Z are both players that can put 40 on your head.
BI has hit 40 7 times in his entire career. That's 1 more than Mikal Bridges in the last calendar year.
Zion is in year 5 and has 1 career 40 point game.
Given they talents, they should both be able to do it more, Zion obviously way more than 1 in his career.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:43 am to southsidedell
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Its not unreasonable.
Yes it is.
At no point should anybody have thought that our duo should be better than:
Giannis/Dame
Durant/Booker
Jokic/Murray
Kawhi/PG
Tatum/Brown
AD/Lebron
You know, a list full of hall of famers, mvps, perrenial all stars, all-nba, nba champs, and finals mvps.
and probably not:
Luka/Kyrie
Butler/Bam
Fox/Sabonis
Mitchell/Garland
I'd take Steph/Klay off just because of aging Klay
Two guys both having the ability to score 40 does not make them a top 3 duo. It's ridiculous to think that. It's when you start factoring in our 3-6 guys is when we start to have an advantage over some other teams.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 10:45 am
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:47 am to iwyLSUiwy
At this point, we just need to keep our core guys healthy. When we get into the playoffs, that's how stars are defined. We'll see then how good these guys are. But we need to make it there healthy as possible first.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:51 am to iwyLSUiwy
People shite on Willie but who would you get to replace him? You see what SVG did here with all his “ experience “. Willie better than Monty also
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:59 am to pleading the fifth
When I moved back to N.O. after living in L.A.( I had Clips season tickets), the main thing I missed and wanted was an NBA team. Then the
Hornets arrived and prayers were answered. I had no expectations for an NBA title anytime soon. The 2008 team was a blast. And the team was saved for New Orleans in 2009-2010. I’m happy with a competitive, entertaining team and make no apologies. Of course, a championship would be great, but I’m not going to let that goal spoil my enjoyment of the team when it’s playing well. We’re in good shape at this point of the season.
Hornets arrived and prayers were answered. I had no expectations for an NBA title anytime soon. The 2008 team was a blast. And the team was saved for New Orleans in 2009-2010. I’m happy with a competitive, entertaining team and make no apologies. Of course, a championship would be great, but I’m not going to let that goal spoil my enjoyment of the team when it’s playing well. We’re in good shape at this point of the season.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:34 am to Dinky Mulberry
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To make me feel better about our future...I have decided to start thinking of Herb as one of our "best players" (and a star). Maybe a bit of a stretch, at the moment, but probably just a matter of time. BTW: Feel free to join me...& remove one of our current players of your choice, from your current "best" list. For this discussion...I consider "best" to mean...a player who gives you your best shot to win a playoff game...ya know...when teams are really tryin' to win. JMO: I COULD be wrong
I’m with you. I trust what herb will do in a playoff series. I don’t trust Zion to not dribble the ball off his foot 3 times a game or BI to not take 14 midrange shots
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:39 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Yes it is. At no point should anybody have thought that our duo should be better than: Giannis/Dame Durant/Booker Jokic/Murray Kawhi/PG Tatum/Brown AD/Lebron You know, a list full of hall of famers, mvps, perrenial all stars, all-nba, nba champs, and finals mvps. and probably not: Luka/Kyrie Butler/Bam Fox/Sabonis Mitchell/Garland I'd take Steph/Klay off just because of aging Klay Two guys both having the ability to score 40 does not make them a top 3 duo. It's ridiculous to think that. It's when you start factoring in our 3-6 guys is when we start to have an advantage over some other teams.
This x1000.
Look at the top 10 teams in the west. Not even going to count the east. We have the worst top 2 stars of those teams.
Only one we kinda come close to is Golden State and that’s just cuz Klay has fallen off, Steph is still miles better than our “stars”. Though kuminga has been balling and will pass up BI if this continues.
We’re good cuz we’re deep. Not because of Zion and Ingram, that’s laughable
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