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Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:37 pm to
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I think we are better than they are but they have the best player/top 3 player in the world.
they’ll be top 4 no question if everyone is healthy now (Murray and MPJ). Those two and the 2x MVP are the best top 3 in the league behind the warriors
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:39 pm to
Just think, if the rumored trade happens the Lakers will have essentially traded Kuzma, KCP, Harrell and 3 1sts for Turner and Heild
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:39 pm to
Ingram and CJ are far better than Murray and MPJ…
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:50 pm to
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Ingram and CJ are far better than Murray and MPJ…
But Jokic is far better than Zion, and the best player of the bunch has a good bit of away compared to the next 2.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:03 pm to
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But Jokic is far better than Zion, and the best player of the bunch has a good bit of away compared to the next 2.


And Jonas is better than whoever their #4 option is.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 7:15 pm to
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And Jonas is better than whoever their #4 option is.


Jonas is a better scorer than Aaron Gordon. Who’s a “garbage man” roll man scorer.

I’d rank them as:
Jokic


Zion/Ingram
CJ

Murray

Jonas
MPJ

Gordon
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

they’ll be top 4 no question if everyone is healthy now (Murray and MPJ). Those two and the 2x MVP are the best top 3 in the league behind the warriors


You’re higher on Murray and MPJ than I am.

I think our top 3 are better than theirs.
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 7:21 pm to
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Jonas
MPJ

Gordon


I would put Herb ahead of Gordon and if Trey gets a little better in his defense awareness I'll put him ahead of Gordon too.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 7:50 pm to
I can’t do that. Gordon isn’t a star player, but he’s a star role player and an excellent defender.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:07 pm to
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I think are top 3 are better than theirs.
no way. No team in the league would trade Murray for CJ straight up. Ingram I’ll give you but the overall 3 with joker is elite. Y’all watch Denver is going to scald their opponents
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:37 pm to
On Caesars app right now, the odds to win the West are:

Warriors +280
Clippers +380
Suns +430
Lakers +750
Nuggets +1000
Grizzlies +1000

Aside from the asininity of the Lakers fans, the thing that stands out to me is how good of a bet that the Nuggets are. That's tempting, as I might put them just behind the Warriors.

By the way, we are currently +1600. I placed my $100 bet early in the offseason at +2500.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:38 pm to
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no way. No team in the league would trade Murray for CJ straight up. Ingram I’ll give you but the overall 3 with joker is elite. Y’all watch Denver is going to scald their opponents
yikes on my misspelling.

I think CJ and Murray are what and what as players.
The only reason Murray has more trade value is because he’s younger.

Denver is gonna be very good but remember Murray has a tendency to be very streaky and Porter is so injury prone. He makes Zion look like AC green
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 8:39 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26688 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:38 am to
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By the way, we are currently +1600. I placed my $100 bet early in the offseason at +2500.


You paying for next year’s pelisuite game after you cash it?
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13092 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 6:59 am to
I have 25 on pels to win the title at +4000 from a while back.
Posted by YungBuck
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2017
3295 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 8:55 am to
Have $25 on Pels Western Conference winners at +2700 and $15 on Finals Champs at +4000. Not much but honest work

Seems we can get multiple Pels suites if they make the Finals…
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:32 pm to
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if they make the playoffs and are healthy, they probably could beat anybody if LeBron and Davis bring it.


my ideal is they get to playoffs as road seed vs a team I follow (gsw, pels and memphis) and the tv guys have to apologize to viewers as Davis and lebron do not play at all and the four games avg 155 to 86 with the 4th in Los Angeles 156 to 68 as no laker starter in double figures.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:51 pm to
I got MVP for Zion at +5000
It's now at +3500
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50033 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:38 pm to
eric pincus:
quote:

The Jazz and Knicks can argue they don't need the Lakers, banking on L.A. being desperate enough to take a marginal deal to get out of Westbrook. But if the two franchises are truly stuck in a Mitchell negotiation, perhaps there's a three-way compromise that works for all.

Perhaps that's Mitchell and Gay to the Knicks, Fournier, Bogdanovic and Reddish to the Lakers, and Westbrook, Toppin and Grimes to the Jazz. Utah gets 3-5 first-round picks (with one from L.A.).
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17801 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:07 pm to
Nahhh, I hope they don’t bail the Lakers out like that.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50033 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:20 pm to
his point is (and its a good one) is that the jazz are not interested in any of the knicks salary guys, and the knicks now cant make the deal without sending those guys out. so a third team will most likely have to be involved, if there is to be a mitchell deal
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