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re: 2021 NBA Trade thread BREAKING: Bagley to Pistons in 4 team deal

Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:25 am to
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:25 am to
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I'm not even sure how you can sit there with a straight face and say he's a small upgrade to NAW.


He really is. Given his salary and injury history, not sure where the value would be.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:26 am to
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I'm not even sure how you can sit there with a straight face and say he's a small upgrade to NAW.


Because I want a bigger upgrade for what it would cost in assets and cap space to get him.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:27 am to
We're talking about a 6th man type here. Whether you think we need a bigger fish is irrelevant as a true 6th man is still a piece they need.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:27 am to
Like I said from the beginning, I am not in favor of any trade where any future assets of any import (1sts, good players) go out. I don't think we need to do that this year.

Expirings, TPEs, 2nds, young players that don't matter, fine.

I'd rather hold on to any assets unless there is a REAL difference maker.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:35 am to
Well this isn't good for Indy

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Shams Charania @ShamsCharania 4m

Pacers say center Myles Turner will be re-evaluated in two weeks due to a stress reaction in his left foot.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:41 am to
Oof

That's basically like every GM's nightmare scenario.

Put a guy on the block, signal he's not part of your future, all for him to get a potentially lingering injury that makes him difficult to move at the price you wanted.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:46 am to
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Pacers center Myles Turner is expected to be sidelined beyond the February 10 NBA trade deadline, sources tell ESPN. Team says he will be re-examined in two weeks, but teams interested in trading for Turner will have to do due diligence on injury as they weigh offers.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:47 am to
Well, he plays in about half the games a season, so he really is not much if an upgrade at all because he never plays.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:49 am to
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Montrezl Harrell has been considered available for trade, per @JakeLFischer

(Via LINK LINK
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:27 pm to
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Report: Detroit Pistons included Jerami Grant in huge offer for Ben Simmons

“The Pistons’ package of Grant, Saddiq Bey, Kelly Olynyk and a first-round pick, for example, was not met with much enthusiasm by Philadelphia brass.” LINK


Ok yeah, Philly just doesn't want to trade him.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30355 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:49 pm to
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We're talking about a 6th man type here. Whether you think we need a bigger fish is irrelevant as a true 6th man is still a piece they need.




We have that guy in Graham, which is why it's imperative we find a legit starting PG.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130320 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:56 pm to
Philly is kind of dumb for turning down that deal.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13310 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:59 pm to
Graham ain't a 6th man in skillset or mentality. He can shoot but he's no a scorer who you give the ball to and let him dictate the game. That's never been his game. NAW is the closest thing to a 6th man type but he can't buy a bucket most of the time.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:14 pm to

Yeah, true, you would like him to be more of a three level scorer, but as a reserve last year he averaged 14ppg on 41.5% from three. 63.6% TS, up from 53% as a starter. Similar split the year before as well. Much better off the bench.

Graham just performs significantly better when you are letting him beat up backups and his role is clear and defined as a guard gunner.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 1:15 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42457 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:16 pm to
I mean what kind of leverage does Philly think they have? At some point teams are going to just start offering less right?

They wouldnt even consider a package with Fox as the top option and now not even interested in this.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:20 pm to
Simmons could be trying to dictate where he wants to go.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:21 pm to
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what kind of leverage does Philly think they have?


That they don't have to trade him.

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At some point teams are going to just start offering less right?



I think the people speculating that they are holding out for Dame are right.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:31 pm to
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Ok yeah, Philly just doesn't want to trade him.


Morey wants Dame.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42457 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:49 pm to
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That they don't have to trade him.


I mean I get that lol. The fact that he wont play for them kind of overrides that point .

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I think the people speculating that they are holding out for Dame are right.


Philly is nuts if they think they could get him for Simmons and Portland is nuts if they would do that.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Philly is nuts if they think they could get him for Simmons and Portland is nuts if they would do that.


Morey has all of his disciples lined up to facilitate, OKC, Minnesota, Houston, and Sacramento. They can flip Simmons into young players and picks.
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