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#1 problem with this team IMO
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:23 pm
Outside of the coach. You don’t have shooters to make them pay for doubling Zion in the post. Seems like more and more teams are starting to copy one another. Double him and make the lack of shooters we have shoot. Need to find more shooting next year so teams can’t feel confident in the double team.
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:31 pm to SaintNation
Yes no.1 priority is shooting.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:37 pm to SaintNation
Wtf are you talking about? Ingram, JJ, Etwaun, Melli, Josh Hart, and hell even Lonzo sometimes, are all good outside shooters. This teams problem is lazy defense.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:43 pm to ElRoos
quote:outside of JJ the other guys aren’t consistent enough. Lonzo is improving tho.
JJ, Etwaun, Melli, Josh Hart, and hell even Lonzo sometimes, are all good outside shooters. This teams problem is lazy defense.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:55 pm to SaintNation
The other big problem is Favors.
Not that he is a bad player(though follow some people around here and he is the worse than Steimsma) but the fact he has no capacity to space the floor means defenders can sag off him to help with Zion.
And because Zion isn’t ready to play center except for incredibly short bursts, I think getting someone like Myles Turner or Serge Ibaka is going to be key this offseason.
Not that he is a bad player(though follow some people around here and he is the worse than Steimsma) but the fact he has no capacity to space the floor means defenders can sag off him to help with Zion.
And because Zion isn’t ready to play center except for incredibly short bursts, I think getting someone like Myles Turner or Serge Ibaka is going to be key this offseason.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:58 pm to Macintosh504
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outside of JJ the other guys aren’t consistent enough.
I'm not so sure this is true. Most of them are close to or 40%+ guys. That is consistent enough to win games. What this team ISN'T consistent on is defense in close games. It's why we have the second worst record in close games.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:58 pm to SaintNation
quote:Defense
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#1 problem with this team IMO
We're a top 5 3pt shooting team.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:00 pm to shel311
I love the “they’re not consistent enough”
What’s that even mean?
What’s that even mean?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:11 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:Etwaun is trash, Hart is streaky, Lonzo is finally hitting open 3s consistently. Jrue is streaky. How is that hard to comprehend?
love the “they’re not consistent enough”
Is there a recorded stat for uncontested 3 pt shoot percentage?
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:18 pm to Macintosh504
Individually? Yeah, NBA.com(and synergy if you have the access) has it.
But I think you are right, we are streaky. And I think it is pretty clear teams are willing to give guys like Jrue, Moore, Hart, and Lonzo those shots if it means being able to cheat onto Zion a bit more. They’ll close out on them, but they aren’t gluing to those guys the way defenders do with Reddick.
But I still argue a rim protecting stretch 5 would do as much as anything to alleviate lots of these problems. Someone that gives you Favors rim protection but pulls a big away from the rim so Zion can feast.
But I think you are right, we are streaky. And I think it is pretty clear teams are willing to give guys like Jrue, Moore, Hart, and Lonzo those shots if it means being able to cheat onto Zion a bit more. They’ll close out on them, but they aren’t gluing to those guys the way defenders do with Reddick.
But I still argue a rim protecting stretch 5 would do as much as anything to alleviate lots of these problems. Someone that gives you Favors rim protection but pulls a big away from the rim so Zion can feast.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:39 pm to Bronc
Bench play is the problem. Without JJ our bench has fallen off (although it's looking good tonight).
Starters have the best net rating in the NBA
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Starters have the best net rating in the NBA
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The Pelicans starting lineup currently ranks (among 38 lineups league-wide with 180+ minutes):
ORtg: 8th
DRtg: 2nd
Net Rating: 1st
Pace: 3rd (107.77) LINK
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:40 pm to Bronc
They are 3rd in 3PT% on the season at 37.3%. They make 14 3s a night on the season, also good for 3rd. They have 5 guys with > 100 3PM on the season, more than any other team at this point (and that doesn't include Melli or Moore).
We are 62 games in. They are not streaky. They are a good 3pt shooting team, which is a shock given what we thought in October.
That teams will sell out to stop Zion at the rim and give up a 3 in the process isn't a knock on the shooters. It's just math.
We are 62 games in. They are not streaky. They are a good 3pt shooting team, which is a shock given what we thought in October.
That teams will sell out to stop Zion at the rim and give up a 3 in the process isn't a knock on the shooters. It's just math.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:40 pm to Macintosh504
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Etwaun is trash, Hart is streaky, Lonzo is finally hitting open 3s consistently. Jrue is streaky. How is that hard to comprehend?
Is there a recorded stat for uncontested 3 pt shoot percentage?
It’s easy to comprehend, it’s just a load of crap. If you are a 40% three point shooter, that means you’re historically elite. It also means you failed 60% of the time. You could call every player in the league inconsistent from beyond the arc if you wanted to. It’s a cheap phrase that nobody could actually sit here and define what it means to be a inconsistent 3pt shooter.
E’Twaun is a 37.6% 3pt shooter this year, league average is 35.7%. Ingram is a 39.2% 3pt shooter. Melli 36.7%, but 41.6% in the last 20. They aren’t inconsistent, they’re above average 3pt shooters that forces teams to decide if they should leave to double Zion.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:42 pm to Bronc
Wow. Actually, we’re often killed on the boards when favors is out
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:44 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:he had a hot November and December and shot over 40% both months. Like always he’s coooled off
E’Twaun is a 37.6% 3pt shooter this year
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:47 pm to Macintosh504
You mean the Moore who has hit over 40% of the 842 3s he's taken in NO? That guy is streaky?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:48 pm to corndeaux
You understand being smart with ball movement and rotations can help mitigate individual streakiness right? Many of our individual shooters are fairly streaky, as a team less so. I’m honestly fine with where our 3 point shooting is at overall because of our overall execution, hence my argument that getting a rim protecting stretch 5 is a bigger need than more perimeter position shooters.
As I think maximizing Zion is the biggest return you can produce in the next few seasons.
As I think maximizing Zion is the biggest return you can produce in the next few seasons.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:52 pm to SaintNation
We’re only 13th in the league in FG% and 3rd in 3PT FG%, but sure we need shooters....
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:59 pm to Bronc
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being smart with ball movement and rotations can help mitigate individual streakiness right?
No. That sounds completely made up.
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individual shooters are fairly streaky, as a team less so
lol. Explain this one too.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:00 pm to Macintosh504
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he had a hot November and December and shot over 40% both months. Like always he’s coooled off
He’s been above 40% from 3 the last two seasons post All-Star break.
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