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re: Will rap ever be as good as it was in the early/mid 90's?

Posted on 8/19/12 at 1:02 am to
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 1:02 am to
My 13y/o son found my stash of 90s rap music on my itunes and he loves it

He said that he hates rap music today and I agree. On the way to fan day we listened to dre, tupac, beasties, public enemy and closed out with ice cube

We listened to it was a good day back to back
Posted by kadillak
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 1:04 am to
Agreed on Cole, Kendrick, and Jay Elec. They have potential to be all time greats. Cole needs more work on his production side and/or go to other producers like No ID and Canei Finch. Jay Elec just needs to release material already -- hopefully him releasing the tracklist means it's coming very soon.

As far as KRIT is concerned, he's very hit or miss to me. Definitely a lot of repetition in his work. That said "Boobie Miles" and "The Vent" are amazing.

Personally don't like Hopsin. Just not my taste.

Fashawn and Blu are other guys I'll throw out there with potential. Fashawn's great at storytelling and his album "Boy Meets World" is one of the best albums in awhile. Blu's "Below The Heavens" album is also really good and considered an underground classic.

ETA: People don't want to hear this, but Jay Electronica lyrically and technically could be the best rapper of all time. But, since people are so stuck in the past, they aren't willing to give him credit.
This post was edited on 8/19/12 at 1:19 am
Posted by DB10_AFC
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 2:10 am to
Nope.
quote:

Or am I just being nostalgic?
Not one bit.
Posted by Souljah
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 9:41 am to
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Rap has no meaning, and no purpose.

It used to be a powerful cultural medium.

Now it is just a tool of pop culture.


I don't agree with your statement, but wouldn't being a tool mean it is still serving a purpose?

I think there is good hip hop today but it is just few and far between. I could definitely see a revival at some point with a new generation that has been inspired by legends. Kind of like how Flying Lotus has been influnced by J Dilla.
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 9:44 am to
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Wait how did this thread turn into talking about shitty current rap?


Seriously. Bottom line is, none of the new era rap will ever compare to 90's and early 2000's rap. some of the new stuff is okay, but none of it speaks with the same attitude and flavor.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 10:15 am to
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ETA: People don't want to hear this, but Jay Electronica lyrically and technically could be the best rapper of all time. But, since people are so stuck in the past, they aren't willing to give him credit.


While i generally agree with what you are saying, jay elec is beyond words to me, its hard to convince the masses how great you are when you've never released an album.

As far as im concerned, the early to mid 90s is the golden age of hip hop. Amazing acts like gang starr were mainstream, stuff like that could never happn today. Also the underground scene in the mid 90s was incredible, with rawkus records and the native tongues leading the way.
Posted by KielandsCalves
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 11:51 am to
quote:

hopefully him releasing the tracklist means it's coming very soon



And that tracklist looks amazing. I can't wait to listen to Road to Perdition with Jay Z.

Also he's got that song called New Illuminati. The comment sections on that one are going be fun.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Hopsin - Ill Mind Of Hopsin 5



I'm still attempting to pick my jaw up off the floor
Posted by SohCahToa
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 11:59 am to
I know. Its ridiculous.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 12:15 pm to
Hes so angry and I like it
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 12:47 pm to
Rock the bells 2012

Some sets from yesterdays rock the bells. I just watched common and meth and redman. Both very enjoyable. Wu block is next.
Posted by SohCahToa
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 12:52 pm to
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Hes so angry and I like it


i showed a couple of my black friends that song. In the beginning they were all like," Damn why is he killin the white folks like that." I just smiled and told them to give it a minute, he's coming for them too
Posted by DB10_AFC
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by SohCahToa
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 1:39 pm to
I'm listening to the Slaughterhouse tape now. Definitely legit.
Posted by DB10_AFC
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Interception
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

And that tracklist looks amazing. I can't wait to listen to Road to Perdition with Jay Z.


I still bump Jay Z but that's about it.

Rakim, NAS, Outcast, Jay Z, Pac, Biggie, Common

These were the rap artist I use to listen to. I just can't or won't listen to new rap.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

but wouldn't being a tool mean it is still serving a purpose
It serves a purpose. It just serves a purpose in opposition to what made it great.

It was once a counterculture medium. It then gained white suburbanites, and became a driver of pop culture.

Now it is a tool of pop culture to sell merchandise. Most rap songs are either vapid and repetitive, jock rock chants, or outright product commercials.

It is not much worse than what happened to rock and roll music.

The difference is that the core varieties of rock remain removed from the mainstream, as a matter of survival. That is how it has managed to maintain it's edge.

Rap was once THE pulse of the ignored, disaffected, shite-on corner of the African American community.

Now it's a tool of those that rap once railed against.

While I'm sure there are a few amazing underground artists around. . .they are so rare they prove nothing regarding the state of rap today.
This post was edited on 8/20/12 at 12:02 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 11:58 pm to
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Rakim,
GOAT
Posted by catfish 62
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:09 am to
No Nas link in the OP?

Nas
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 5:54 am to
quote:

Also the underground scene in the mid 90s was incredible, with rawkus records and the native tongues leading the way.


Used to love Rawkus. Soundbombing series
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