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Why do a lot of metal/rock shows pass up NOLA?

Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:48 pm
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17754 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:48 pm
I have noticed throughout the years that a lot of bands skip NOLA on the way to their next gig.

I mean yeah, NOLA does get their fair share, but not as much as TX, Ohio, and the East Coast for example.

Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8536 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:55 pm to
Noticed this before Katrina... since Katrina it is a great deal worse.

When you figure it out let me know.

Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

I mean yeah, NOLA does get their fair share, but not as much as TX, Ohio, and the East Coast for example.



The market and demand has to be sufficient enough for bands to see it as profitable or beneficial to stop in New Orleans. I share your struggle and frustration as well. This tour cycle has been immensely disappointing seeing band after band bypass New Orleans in favor of either Texas or east coast Southern cities.

However, I will never protest why major metropolises like Houston, Dallas, Philadelphia, Chicago, New York, Boston, Baltimore, Los Angeles, etc., are chosen as tour stops rather than New Orleans. The obvious answer is that the populations are larger and therefore there is a greater likelihood that the tickets to a show will sell out.

Also, as much as it pains me to admit, the South is not as supportive of metal as it is of other musical genres. Now, there are certain niche genres that are still widely popular in this region of the country (e.g. stoner and sludge do pretty well), but generally speaking the major markets present a much greater probability of sold-out shows.

Because most bands no longer do 100-200 dates in a calendar year, they have to maximize their travel arrangements as best as possible. They need to visit both regions of the country that they know will support them and also establish fans in previously untapped areas.

If you want to question why certain cities receive preference over New Orleans, ask why Nashville seems to be a tour stop for every single frickin' band you can imagine. Nashville is a big metro area, but it's also a city known for its country music output rather than rock or metal. At least Atlanta and New Orleans have their own respective metal scenes.

The only thing I can figure is that Nashville presents a good, geographically central location accessible by a number of people from slightly smaller cities. After all, it is practically in the direct center of the South.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96254 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:11 pm to
New Orleans is corrupt to the core - so those costs are not always willingly forked over by the band or promotion team. A lot of trouble seems to find its way to folks gigging in New Orleans, too.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12804 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:01 pm to
a few issues

-its a significantly smaller city than a lot you probably think of as a peer(like 50th by population)

-coastal means its not drawing from 360 degrees (like someone mentioned nashville being cental- though nashville is 25th largest to start)

-demographically, its not a metal city

-ticket sales arent always easy in NOLA with so much great cheap/free entertainment around town (and people tend to commit to buying event tickets later than some locations)
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:09 pm to
nobody is metal enough, and they know it.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159065 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

demographically, its not a metal city
And because of rap making such huge inroads in the rock market in the last 20 years the overall potential audience for rock acts has decreased considerably. Add to this that mid-level touring acts have always had the most difficulty finding suitable venues (unknowns play whatever shithole they can get; superstars play the top of the line places).

During the golden age BR got national acts thanks to LSU and the 5% entertainment tax in NO ("to pay for welfare", according to a concert promoter who spoke to my class at LSU 25+ years ago); some acts would even play the MS Gulf Coast to avoid the latter. Can anyone tell me if this tax is still in place? I've asked several times on the OT and here but have never gotten an answer.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:22 pm to
Its smaller and its really not easy to get to from the regional area because it is so far south, not a lot of cities in line which are extremely easy. BHam / Atl / Nashville are easier for places to the east except probably Mobile / Gulfport and anything to the west probably has an easier time going to Texas.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42413 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

I have noticed throughout the years that a lot of bands skip NOLA on the way to their next gig.


I noticed this same trend with Birmingham. When I was a kid anyone who was anybody would play Birmingham. Over the years, the large concert act scene just dropped off the map basically. Bands would skip and just play Atlanta instead. or Nashville, or wherever.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:55 pm to
Aside from all the logical conclusions like location, population and demographics, New Orleans is just a shite hole.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38380 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 3:51 pm to
Good one!!!
Posted by Andre
Cashier at Stein's Deli
Member since Apr 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 3:52 pm to
Lamb of God just played at the Orpheum Theater. what are you talking about

eta: you should check out out Siberia's music calendar
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42612 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:26 pm to
I went to at least 25 shows in New Orleans last year, how many do you need? New venues like Champions Square and Civic Theater brought in a lot of metal and hard rock acts. This year is off to a slower start than last but there's still been plenty.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:58 pm to
previous experience

it can ONLY be that N.O. has not been turning out for the kind of music you refer to.

if people were lining up around the block to get in, they would come back.





Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 5:05 pm to
Demographics. I'm not sure why a city like New Orleans couldn't draw 15k for a good metal show though.

Many Southern cities share this issue.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74077 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 5:20 pm to
the East Coast is a fricking hotbed for metal and hardcore punk.

As others have stated...look at the demographics...
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 5:43 pm to
Small market within a few hours of several larger markets in Houston, Dallas, and Florida. New Orleans still gets more acts than its size would indicate, though. The better question would be why does Lafayette get so many more than Baton Rouge while going toe to toe with NOLA?
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11881 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 6:44 pm to
Simple answer...entertainment taxes.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

New Orleans is corrupt to the core - so those costs are not always willingly forked over by the band or promotion team. A lot of trouble seems to find its way to folks gigging in New Orleans, too.


Yeah I'm sure that's the reason...

I'm absolutely happy with the variety and number of good shows in NO with lots of new venues coming on line.

Keep the classic rock mega tour bullshite in the major markets.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

I went to at least 25 shows in New Orleans last year, how many do you need? New venues like Champions Square and Civic Theater brought in a lot of metal and hard rock acts. This year is off to a slower start than last but there's still been plenty.


This. We get passed over sometimes but can't win em all and Baton Rouge (Varsity) has been filling some gaps here lately. The Obsessed this Friday at Siberia.
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