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Why are so many songs nowadays just four chords?

Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:29 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:29 pm
I teach guitar lessons and have been introduced to a quite a bit of new popular music. There have been many songs that only have four chords that repeat from start to finish.

Imagine Dragons - Radioactive

Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill

X Ambassadors - Renegades

Jacob Sartorius - Last Text (I forgive this kid since he's a child - though someone else is most likely writing his songs)

The Chainsmokers & Coldplay - Something Like This

I could come up with more. But it's so lazy and boring to have a song that doesn't go anywhere except a change in vocals and a bit more layers in the rhythm.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:37 pm to
I like some of the songs you posted.

I think people either like simplicity, or they just don't appreciate complex pieces of music. Also, they're all pushed heavily on the radio. It's just what they hear all of the time, so they just respond to what's presented to them.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:11 pm to
Most people are too stupid to appreciate anything more complex
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:19 pm to
Haven't most pop/rock songs always been 3 or 4 chords?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42608 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:33 pm to
Those are all pop songs made for 12 year old girls. What do you expect?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31954 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:47 pm to
I get bored with it too,but you know,kids learn songs like that,and then play them forever.

To me it's Ok to use only 4 chords,but change up the progression a bit,do some turnarounds,something.

Most everything I write,is 6 chords or less,with some variations thrown in.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Pitt Road
Mid-Florida
Member since Aug 2017
1236 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:09 pm to
Haven't most pop/rock songs always been 3 or 4 chords?

Isn't this the way it has always been?
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26330 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:20 pm to
4? That's one more than you need
Posted by Pitt Road
Mid-Florida
Member since Aug 2017
1236 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:34 pm to
Amen.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21082 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:07 pm to
I'm trying to think of an era that really repeated the same progression for three minutes and called it a day.

No B section at all. Just the same ole four bars repeated over and over.

Even Blink 182 and Backstreet Boys and Hanson had some kind of change up in their songs.
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2509 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:11 pm to
Whenever I hear a song on the local top 40 station, whenever I hear the first chord of the chorus, 95% of the time I can accurately predict how the rest of the chorus will play out. Not only is it four chords, but everyone is playing the same four-chord progression. Seemingly, the only time when that doesn't happen is when they play a throwback song from a different era...
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 8:13 pm
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21952 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:31 pm to
Laziness
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:29 pm to
This has been the case for 60 years.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:57 pm to
My dear fellow, there are in fact only so many chords the ear can hear in the course of a song. I think I'm right in saying that, aren't I, Music Board posters?
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
2198 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:24 am to
Way too complex for me. I IV V is all you need- Lighnin Hopkins.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:46 am to
Pete Townshend- "Pop songs, by tradition, are two minutes fifty (seconds), with four chords, maybe five. Five chords, you're in front of the Board."
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:38 am to
Seriously, who cares? If it sounds good, why do you care more about quantity of chords over quality of the music piece itself. In the Dax Riggs thread from last weak, we discussed how one of his best songs has never been officially released, and it's mainly 2 chords played the whole time, but Dax's vocals complete the song and make it awesome. There are plenty of examples of classic songs that use less than 4 chords. See Jane Says and Horse With No Name.
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2509 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:10 am to
True, many good songs are just 3 or 4 chords...but I'm telling you, over the last couple of years, it seems like every pop tart on the airwaves is recycling the same exact chord progression in the chorus. I probably shouldn't even use the word "recycling", because at least a recycled product is made into something new...they're just plain repeating, as if that chord progression is the only option available.

shite, to think people are paid to do this too...I guarantee any one of us could at least earn a co-writing credit by simply submitting that same 4-chord progression...
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4614 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:25 pm to
'Country music is three chords and the truth'
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