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re: Who's the GOAT Folk Singer?

Posted on 5/12/13 at 8:57 am to
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 8:57 am to
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John freaking denver




That John Dever is full of shite.
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Posted by BobLoblaw
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 9:49 am to
I'll say Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan.
Posted by mauser
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 10:15 am to
Burl Ives
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 11:06 am to
Well, someone finally mentioned Woody Guthrie on page 2. But no Pete friggin' Seeger? Come on, people.

Though I love Billy Bragg as well. My top 5:

Pete Seeger
Woody Guthrie
Bob Dylan
Billy Bragg
Joni Mitchell

ETA: Honorable mentions for the Clancy Brothers and Ani DiFranco.

This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 11:08 am
Posted by Sparky36
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 11:32 am to
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Baloo


Re-read the first page of this thread carefully.



Posted by epbart
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 11:40 am to
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Isn't Bob Dylan a folk singer?


I think, on the whole, Dylan (like Johnny Cash) defies being labeled in one genre. But he definitely started out as a folk singer and will always be affiliated with it since his early records were folk, following directly in the footsteps of Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger... and that's what propelled him to fame. Starting in 1965, though, with "Like a Rolling Stone" among other songs, he definitely started experimenting with rock, and his more recent albums seem more rock than folk. That being said, Dylan's work from the early 60's alone merit him being in the discussion for greatest folk singers.

Aside from the uncertainty of Dylan, I agree with Sparky 36's definition:

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My definition of Folk Music must be different from the rest of the world. Jim Croce and James Taylor belong to the "Singer/Songwriter" genre of Popular music. Folk music greats are people like Prine, Woody and Arlo Guthrie, Bob Dylan, Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, and Peter, Paul, & Mary.


Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 12:00 pm to
1 Leadbelly
1A Woody Guthrie
Posted by Nativebullet
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:06 pm to
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My definition of Folk Music must be different from the rest of the world.

Jim Croce and James Taylor belong to the "Singer/Songwriter" genre of Popular music.


This. And my answer is Guthrie.
Posted by nobigdeal69
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:49 pm to
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1. Cat Stevens


First person I thought when I saw the thread
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 2:10 pm to
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Cat Stevens
James Taylor
Jim Croce
Gordon Lightfoot

What you're talking about is singer-songwriters, a wimpy '70s genre and a wholly different thing from folksingers

Please edit your thread title accordionly, I mean accordingly
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 3:04 pm to
What the world needs now is another folk singer, like I need a hole in my head. I do love old folk music, but that's a good line and sums up how I feel about most coffeehouse folk. Good folk musicians were radicals who challenged the social order. They sang about something, and some of them truly suffered for their art and politics (SEE Seeger, Pete).

Reducing folk as a genre to a bunch of whiny guys with goatees singing love songs so they can seem sensitive just irritates me. If Woody were alive, he'd kick all of their asses. Folk music should mean something.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 3:14 pm to
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Good folk musicians were radicals who challenged the social order


Actually folk musicians were hillbillies wailing about their lives -- that is, white blues. Then folk somehow got co-opted by the radical chics of the 1930s.

The subjects of this thread were simply the mood music of the 1970s, musically devolved from Dylan but spiritually owing more to crooners like Vic Damone and Andy Williams, except that they didn't sing nearly as well.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

My definition of Folk Music must be different from the rest of the world.

Jim Croce and James Taylor belong to the "Singer/Songwriter" genre of Popular music.


Yea it's a very broad, difficult genre to define.

quote:

Bob Dylan


If we're considering him in this genre he'd be on my list.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 5:05 pm to
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John Prine not being on this list is crazy to me. You've never Listened to him I guess?


Nope, never even heard of him. Will be checking him out ASAP though, thanks guys !
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 5:07 pm to
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What you're talking about is singer-songwriters, a wimpy '70s genre and a wholly different thing from folksingers


There's actually a genre called singer-songwriter? Wouldn't close to every artist of all-time fall into a category of people who sing and write songs?

I've always heard people refer to my list as folk singers. Didn't know there was this whole other genre it referred to.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 5:26 pm to
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Nope, never even heard of him


Posted by TheFolker
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 7:33 pm to
Simon & Garfunkel
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 7:43 pm to
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There's actually a genre called singer-songwriter? Wouldn't close to every artist of all-time fall into a category of people who sing and write songs?

In the 1970s the term "singer-songwriter" came to refer to the genre of performers who had been involved in folk-rock, but no longer wanted to rock quite so hard. Without loud guitars it was very radio friendly, and the political aspects of modern folk were abandoned as well. It was heavily popularized by the Hollywood school and loosely connected to country-rock, though without the country -- or rock, or blues, or really anything that might alienate the pop audience.

As Dave Marsh memorably wrote, "The term 'singer-songwriter' was perfect. It included singers who couldn't write, like Rita Coolidge, and writers who couldn't sing, like Kris Kristofferson."
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 8:02 pm to
I'd go Seeger. Even though I thought he was occasionally a full-on douchepile, he was the epitomy of a guy & his guitar against the machine-and was an important voice.
Posted by OldTigahFot
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 10:23 pm to
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John Prine

/thread


He was one of the first artists I heard on the old Beeker Street radio program on KAAY in Little Rock.

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