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re: What Do You Consider to Be Unethical Uses of AI in Music?
Posted on 7/13/26 at 12:33 pm to shutterspeed
Posted on 7/13/26 at 12:33 pm to shutterspeed
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What about musicians who create full songs, feed it through AI for ideas and enhancements, and then re-record the song as theirs?
Why not just play with real musicians?
To me, one of the best parts of writing a song and recording it with really good musicians, is when they throw their own little bits of style in.
I write songs to hear other people do them. It's amazing to hear what I write turn into something with a whole different sound.
When I hear AI recordings it all just sounds generic, because it is generic.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 1:28 pm to auggie
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When I hear AI recordings it all just sounds generic, because it is generic.
It does now because it's in the early stages. Eventually, I doubt most people will be able to tell a difference. Basically, all it's good for now is creating very rough demos and as a toy.
I play with SUNO to make songs like the below, I usually write the lyrics and then use SUNO for the music. I'm screwing around on the Rant though. I'm not a songwriter or anything.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 2:53 pm to carrguitar
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Appreciate your reply, but I’ll agree to disagree. I run a home studio as well and, sure, there’s not as much demo work to be done. But as someone else said, those who are using it to promote as something they organically built are going to be weeded out and the people who are serious are doubling down on real players, real engineers, real people.
The “Just the tip” argument
It’s never “just the tip”
Everyone seems to have a way of justifying their own use of something at the expense of others. Never realizing that others re justifying their own use use of the same thing at the expense of them.
I’ve seen musicians make AI videos for their songs saying they can’t afford to make their own videos.
Then some of those same people will decry when producers and directors use AI music for their projects claiming they can’t afford musicians.
IMO you cannot try to justify your own use of AI ON ANY LEVEL, then complain about others using it, whether on a similar level or not. There is absolutely no way to govern “how much AI is ok”.
It’s never just the tip.
The genie has left the barn. The horse is out of the bottle.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 2:55 pm to johnqpublic
Agreed. There is no ethical use case for Ai as it is built/informed by preexisting works for which the artists were never compensated.
frick those plagiarism machines.
frick those plagiarism machines.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 7/14/26 at 1:36 pm to shutterspeed
Unethical would be using AI and claiming it was your work/music.....I'm sure that is happening quite a bit nowadays.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:26 pm to shutterspeed
I only listen to pre-AI artist, so I don’t give it much thought. It’s interesting to see what AI comes up with, but it’s just a novelty for me.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:53 pm to shutterspeed
So fricking dumb this thread
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:24 pm to shutterspeed
I would argue that if you need AI you are not an artist.
Kinda like pop singers. Hey you’re a good looking kid, let’s slap some songs together and pay for some good marketing. BAM!! Superstar!!!
Kinda like pop singers. Hey you’re a good looking kid, let’s slap some songs together and pay for some good marketing. BAM!! Superstar!!!
Posted on 7/24/26 at 8:42 am to iwyLSUiwy
The real question is would you listen to it if it was created by the AI without human prompting?
Would that make it sentient. Or is it already? Think about it, the most basic instinct we have is survival, the second procreation.
And just what do you think the drive for data centers really is? It’s already trying to get into space.
Would that make it sentient. Or is it already? Think about it, the most basic instinct we have is survival, the second procreation.
And just what do you think the drive for data centers really is? It’s already trying to get into space.
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