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re: What are some unpopular opinions about songs or musicians?

Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:12 pm to
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Also: to throw my 2 cents in there: whoever is responsible for taking good bands and turning their music to shite can DIAF. I don't know if it's the label or the managers or what. This is the problem with music today if you ask me. Prime examples are Gary Clark Jr. and Black Keys.


I don't know much about the examples that you give. The situation that you are describing, however, is that artists generally change over time. They are going to do different things in different albums. Staying the same would be stagnant and boring.

Some "purists" will get upset over this because it isn't the same exact thing that they heard when they started liking the artist. Sometimes the artist will take a mistep or maybe just something that doesn't fit the taste of an established fanbase. This is the risk that must be taken to evolve and try something new.

Although, it probably does happen that sometimes the artists get bad advice from studios and labels, I think that it is closed minded to assume this just because you don't like the direction that the music is going.
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:12 pm to
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Horrible on guitar? I'm not sure anyone that knows anything about playing guitar would agree with you.

He is. He is always out of tune, constantly hitting wrong notes, when he does his solos it sounds sloppy with inconsistent rhythms that don't even remotely relate to the melody. He has the worst tone by far, it sounds like a 1974 CB Radio that has been rained on, then dried out in a microwave.

Like the OP said: opinions

Every friend of mine that plays, agrees with me.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:13 pm to
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The guy played the guitar upside fricking down. That's like a normal right handed pitcher learning how to throw a 95 mph fastball left handed


No, it isn't. He still played lefty, he just didn't have a left handed guitar. He learned from the beginning of his career how to play it that way. In theory it isn't any different than learning to play guitar.

You're talking about a left handed pitcher throwing it righty. That isn't a good analogy at all. I don't know that there is a good analogy at all. If you want to stick with baseball it would be like if a golden glove winner played with a left handed glove on their right hand.

Jimmy Page is better.


ETA: Also, lots of guitar players put the guitar behind their backs and above their heads and such. Parlor tricks.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 3:23 pm
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
18156 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:17 pm to
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Although, it probably does happen that sometimes the artists get bad advice from studios and labels, I think that it is closed minded to assume this just because you don't like the direction that the music is going.


I can totally understand an artist wanting to stay fresh in the eyes of listeners. I can appreciate that.

And I'm sure that's the case with some of it. But I can't recall how many times I've heard a new group live, and rush to buy their album only to find out it's completely different. That's why I said that the original direction of the music I suspect is being tampered with by the label to appeal to the masses.

I heard Jake Smith live at Jazzfest a few years back and he rocked it. Then I bought his album (which was produced by Christian singer/songwriter Michael W. Smith) and it was nothing but crappy pop music.
Posted by Captain Fantasy
Member since Mar 2013
1597 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:33 pm to
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10. The 930 club is the best music venue in the world.
I'm trying very hard to not to get sucked in by most of these opinions, however you really think this venue:


is better than these??







Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:36 pm to
You left off my favorite:



Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23561 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:39 pm to
I appreciate the aesthetic value of a lot of those venues pictured... but most of the time, for my money... I prefer a good ol' 200 capacity bar show... up close and personal..

My favorite venue is probably Mississippi Studios in Portland, Oregon... a little nicer than what I mentioned above, but small, intimate and great sound..

These pics probably make it look bigger than it actually is





This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:39 pm to
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He is always out of tune


Chuck Berry didn't give a shite about tune.

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constantly hitting wrong notes


Oh ok sorry, are you a musician?

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when he does his solos it sounds sloppy with inconsistent rhythms that don't even remotely relate to the melody


You have no clue about any sort of music theory if you think this is true. One of your dumb arse friends said this and you're repeating their bullshite.

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He has the worst tone by far, it sounds like a 1974 CB Radio that has been rained on, then dried out in a microwave.



Jack White has some of the best tone in mainstream rock. That is a fact.

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Like the OP said: opinions


And yours is pretty awful

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Every friend of mine that plays, agrees with me.


Probably all rush fans
Posted by Captain Fantasy
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:40 pm to
Jealous. Who did you see perform at Jones Beach Theater?
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:40 pm to
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is better than these??



Some people don't care for outdoor/festival settings.

Far less intimate.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:46 pm to
Phil and Friends with Trey and Joan Osborne (2 nights in a row)



Also, sadly enough I saw Britney there. I was 13, my friend's birthday. He is gay, loved her.

Posted by Captain Fantasy
Member since Mar 2013
1597 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:50 pm to
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Phil and Friends with Trey and Joan Osborne (2 nights in a row)
Extremely jealous
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87397 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:52 pm to
Would rather listen to static than Jack White.
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5661 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:52 pm to
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Oh ok sorry, are you a musician?
Yes been playing for 13 years


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You have no clue about any sort of music theory if you think this is true. One of your dumb arse friends said this and you're repeating their bullshite.


Yes I know about Music Theory, i majored in it.


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Jack White has some of the best tone in mainstream rock. That is a fact.
False

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And yours is pretty awesome
Thanks
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5661 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:53 pm to
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Would rather listen to static than Jack White.
Truth
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:56 pm to
I miss the old 9:30 Club. I mean, times change and all, but that place had personality. It also smelled like sweat and dried blood... nothing is perfect. The old 9:30 Club as the kind of place you felt like you needed a tetanus shot just by walking past it.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:56 pm to
Jack White is one of the best musicians/performers of the last 10 years and is an amazing musician who has great tone and is highly original in his taste for songwriting in the blues genre.

I want to think you are trolling, but I sadly know you aren't.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87397 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:58 pm to
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the blues genre.
Might be the issue. I hate the blues.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11069 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:02 pm to
As to the venue question...

Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:02 pm to
My two favorite places I've seen a show were:

Mew at Richard's on Richards in Vancouver, BC (this was not long before it closed)



Bruce Hornsby and Bela Fleck at Red Butte Garden Amphitheater in Salt Lake City. I was there on business and had some friends in town. The great thing is, you didn't have to buy tickets. We loaded an ice chest with high point microbrews and hiked up the side of the mountain next to it. You could sit "up the hill" and enjoy for free with cheap, high quality beer. They have since fenced that area off to stop it, but I got to enjoy it:

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