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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:02 pm to
Doc, He is original and writes his own stuff, and I respect that.

But, I just dislike everything about his music.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:04 pm to
He's not as bad as Alabama Shakes. Good grief that's some terrible shite.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:05 pm to
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Probably all rush fans


Alex Lifeson is 10 times the guitarist Jack White is. Sorry, but White is pretty sloppy and his guitar parts are not very ambitious at all.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:06 pm to
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He's not as bad as Alabama Shakes. Good grief that's some terrible shite.


Someone finally answered my question of that "other trendy southern rock band with the fat chick singing." An ex (hipster) of mine gave me their album and told me I'd love it. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't special. Talk about overhyped. Definitely has that faux indie aesthetic.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:11 pm to
I always picture TheDoc as Ned.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:11 pm to
I dont think there is anything indie about it... to me its more of that soul revival... which is kinde niche-y and has very little staying power... maybe as a live act.

For me its OK, when heard live, etc... but the pay off upon repeated listen is minimal... something that you'll see tons of in the used CD bins in a few years...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:14 pm to
Yup
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:15 pm to
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Might be the issue. I hate the blues.


I don't hate the blues, but I recognize it is a very narrow genre that results in very little true creativity today. It's the kind of stuff I really only care to listen to when getting drunk and laughing at the BR Blues Society types reinforcing the stereotype that white people can't dance.

I'll say that Jack White has distinct tone, but best is really opinion. When I think great guitar tone, my mind goes to the likes of Frusciante and Robert Fripp.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:16 pm to
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Alex Lifeson is 10 times the guitarist Jack White is. Sorry, but White is pretty sloppy and his guitar parts are not very ambitious at all.


I knew I'd get someone to bite
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:18 pm to
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but the pay off upon repeated listen is minimal


Seven nation army is celebrated GLOBALLY... Just as one example
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:19 pm to
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But, I just dislike everything about his music.


That's fair. That's an opinion.

But to say he's not a good guitarist blows my mind...
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:21 pm to
Sorry
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
88049 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:23 pm to
I once had a music major tell me The Connells were bad, objectively. He was from North Carolina though. Weirdo.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:23 pm to
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I dont think there is anything indie about it.


I'm not using indie as a genre. I'm speaking to the roots of indie (independent label). When I say faux indie, I'm talking about this fake grassroots support that "different" sounding rock bands are given. It was pretty bad about 6-8 years ago with about 90% of "indie" labels being subsidiaries of the big labels. Now, the big labels tried their hardest to hide that fact, but it eventually ran its course.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:24 pm to
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Seven nation army is celebrated GLOBALLY... Just as one example


I loved that song when it came out, but it wore out pretty quickly. Now I want to stab Meg White every time I hear it being chanted at a sporting event.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:29 pm to
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But to say he's not a good guitarist blows my mind...


Jack White is:

1. A good guitarist

AND

2. Overrated
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:35 pm to
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When I say faux indie, I'm talking about this fake grassroots support that "different" sounding rock bands are given. It was pretty bad about 6-8 years ago with about 90% of "indie" labels being subsidiaries of the big labels.

Well, the reason for that was distribution. Having a successful act on an indie label would actually potentially bankrupt the label. Epitaph had this problem with the Offspring, as they didn't have the money to distribute several million copies of the album. Same with Sub Pop and Nirvana. They had to take big label money or they were going to go under. So long as their actual operations are independent, I don't give a crap if they take a check from Columbia so they can press and mail off a bunch of copies to stores.

A gold record is actually about the worst possible thing that can happen to an independent label. What changed wasn't shame but the rise of the mp3. You don't need the majors distribution anymore. You could sell a bunch of albums without running into huge costs to press and ship all of those copies.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:46 pm to
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So long as their actual operations are independent, I don't give a crap if they take a check from Columbia so they can press and mail off a bunch of copies to stores.


That's the issue. Their operations are usually not independent.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 5:04 pm to
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A gold record is actually about the worst possible thing that can happen to an independent label.


The best run indie label out there is Merge, they way they grew slowly and organically is the reason they were able to sign Arcade Fire a decade ago and not lose them to a major...

They have also helped them fund many other smaller bands over the years..

A lot of indies are run by people with no business sense that get in way over their heads when demand (like mentioned above) occurs...
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 5:51 pm to
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Captain Fantasy


The reason the 930 club is so great is because of how small it is.

Great acts + small venue == eargasms galore.

Your pictures look pretty and all, but I find them argumentatively unpersuasive.
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