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Vince Vance Suing Mariah for Stolen Christmas Song

Posted on 11/3/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20760 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 10:43 am
New Orleans entertainer files suit against Mariah Carey
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NEW ORLEANS — Local entertainer Vince Vance went to the White House in the 1990s to perform his Christmas song. After that appearance, it hit the charts.

Mariah Carey has a Christmas hit that has been at the top of the charts and streamed a couple of billion times.

Now a new lawsuit alleges that Carey's song is very similar.

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Turns out the song's credits list a Walter Afanasieff as the lone co-writer with Carey. It also turns out that last year he went on a podcast called “Hot Takes & Deep Dives with Jess Rothschild” where he straight up called Mariah Carey out for bullshite.

For over 20 years the two of them shared the same story that they came up with the song together while writing Carey's album Music Box. And they knew they had a smash on their hands.

But Carey changed her tune (pun intended) about ten years ago Afanasieff claims, having told Billboard in an interview that "she wrote the song while playing "her casio keyboard" when she was a little kid."


https://www.wwltv.com/article/entertainment/music/vince-vance-lawsuit-mariah-careys-all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you/289-fddfea80-e009-44c4-99bc-462037c019ef

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Vince Vance wrote his “All I Want For Christmas Is You” in 1989. It charted too, around number 52, before Mariah Carey released hers in 1994.

“So every time she sells a record, guess who gets the money, Mariah Carey, and he deserves this money,” said attorney Douglas Schmidt, who is representing Vince Vance.

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He just filed a copyright infringement lawsuit in California against Mariah Carey, her co-writer, and Sony Music Entertainment. They are seeking $20 million in damages.

“We're not suing on the melody, but it's the words. And you can tell it's the same words when you go it. It's the same story, same thing under the Christmas tree. It's the exact same. Now she says, ‘Oh well, I thought of this when I was a little girl.’ Her own writer says that's a lot of bunk,” said Schmidt.


Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13968 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:28 am to
I love this Christmas song by him. Very topical today. Bomb Iran
Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4243 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 5:52 pm to
Damn. I once told a girl "All I Want For Christmas Is You"....I hope he doesn't sue me next. Not a chance in hell he wins this lawsuit.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6996 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Not a chance in hell he wins this lawsuit.


Some lawyer bought the rights to a Australian kid's song called Kookaburra just to sue Men at Work for using five notes in "Land Down Under". He won and didn't have a single thing to do with creating either song.

You can steal almost anything if you have a good enough lawyer.
Posted by parrotdr
Cesspool of Rationalization
Member since Oct 2003
7862 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:27 am to
He tried this last year and it was dropped. Don't know what changed for this year. I always liked his song, but he's grasping at candy-striped Christmas straws.

And all those songs share is a title, which CANNOT be copyrighted.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89738 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Damn. I once told a girl "All I Want For Christmas Is You"....I hope he doesn't sue me next. Not a chance in hell he wins this lawsuit.



You kind of missed the part where she makes money off this song. Its prob her most popular song now. Its the one i hear every fricking year.

Not saying he will win, but not because you told someone you wanted them for Christmas. Now record the song and try selling it and i bet Mariah comes for you.



Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4243 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 8:18 pm to
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You kind of missed the part where she makes money off this song. Its prob her most popular song now. Its the one i hear every fricking year

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No, dumbass, she makes money off of her song that is played ad nauseum every fricking year. The songs have nothing in common other than the title. Do I need to compile a list for you of other songs with the same title that have nothing else in common that are not involved in a frivolous lawsuit?
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6431 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 2:11 am to
Wow! Is Vince in a wheelchair permanently?

Don’t think he wins. Tried it once before and it didn’t fly.

I just turn her off when it comes on the radio. There’s only one All I Want For Christmas Is You
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196538 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:46 pm to
its a barber chair ,,, his hairdo is iconic / his shtick
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
3716 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 10:00 am to
He should sue his mother for naming him "Vince Vance."
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32060 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:26 am to
Vince Vance & The Valiants' 1989 hit song "All I Want For Christmas Is You" is clearly NOT the same song as Mariah Carey's 1994 Christmas classic.

Vance will go nowhere with his suit: song titles alone are NOT copyright protected. The two songs are otherwise very different
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31567 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:37 am to
I've not bothered to do it, because I really don't give a crap, but has anybody compared lyrics of these songs?

The music/sound doesn't matter, because it's all been done a million times.
Copy my words and call them your own.. you have an enemy.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63403 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:09 pm to
I remember seeing Vince Vance and the Valiants years ago. He's still around?
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32060 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 7:05 pm to
I saw him back in 1971 in the Student Union building! He and his band performed a concert of covers of rock 'n roll hit songs from the 1950s- early 1960s.
Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4243 posts
Posted on 11/11/23 at 5:31 am to
“We're not suing on the melody, but it's the words. And you can tell it's the same words when you go it. It's the same story, same thing under the Christmas tree. It's the exact same."

VV - Take back the holly and mistletoe
Silver bells on string
If I wrote a letter to Santa Claus
I would ask for just one thing
I don't need sleigh rides in the snow
Don't want a Christmas that's blue
Take back the tinsel, stockings, and bows
'Cause all I want for Christmas is you

MC - I don't want a lot for Christmas
There is just one thing I need
I don't care about the presents underneath the Christmas tree
I just want you for my own
More than you could ever know
Make my wish come true
All I want for Christmas is you


Case closed Vince - You Lose - Goodbye!
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