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re: Top 5 blues players all time

Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by lsu1919
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:08 pm to
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2nd he kinda put blues on map back in the 20s where it spread to Chicago and other places.


This is incorrect.

Johnson was around 10 years old in 1920. 18-20 in 1930. Johnson didn't become a "musician" till around 1930-32.

They guys that were influencing Johnson were the guys spreading the blues in the '20s.


Posted by lsu1919
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:20 pm to
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I would ASSUME that's it's simply becuase of the time period and he was doing things people hadn't heard before and was very far advanced for his time and place. And obviously he was good. I guess what I'm asking is, if he was playign music today would he still be considered as legendary without all the urban legend stuff


Johnson was/is an enigma. That's the major draw to him at this point. And his music if you like it.

Basically, in the '60s Clapton heard of him and listened to him. Then Clapton said he was the best. Son House said, oh I remember him, he sold his sold to the devil to learn to play guitar. And the legend was born.

What really happened was Son House heard Johnson try to play the guitar when Johnson was around 16-18. Johnson stunk. Then two (2) years later house heard him again and he could really play. Well no shite. He'd been practicing for 2 years. But the legend of the devil was born.

From Wiki:

If one had asked black blues fans about Johnson in the first twenty years after his death, writes Elijah Wald, "the response in the vast majority of cases would have been a puzzled 'Robert who?'" This lack of recognition extended to black musicians: "As far as the evolution of black music goes, Robert Johnson was an extremely minor figure, and very little that happened in the decades following his death would have been affected if he had never played a note".[82] Columbia Records released the album King of the Delta Blues Singers, a compilation of Johnson's recordings, in 1961, which introduced his work to a much wider audience—fame and recognition he only received long after his death.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:25 pm to
Nobody's heard of Elmore James?
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:40 pm to
No Coco Montoya, no care.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:53 pm to
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1. Robert Johnson and it shouldn't be close
2. Sun House
3. James Cotton - best blues harmonica player ever
4. Ry Cooder
5. John Lee Hooker


This is a good list.

quote:

4. Ry Cooder


Criminally underrated by most. Incredible guitar player.
Posted by BadMrK
Addis, La
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:43 pm to
It's a couple of reasons. The first is that he could essentially play both lead guitar and rhythm guitar simultaneously, which absolutely blew people's minds. The second reason plays off of the first reason. Name a prominent guitarist...it is incredibly likely that Robert Johnson inspired that person. Name a band of nearly any genre...blues, rock, country, pop, etc. It is incredibly likely that either they were inspired by Robert Johnson, or they were inspired by someone who was inspired by Robert Johnson. I consider him the father of music as we know it. Without him, we mostly likely wouldn't have almost any of the great artist that we know and love
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:26 pm to
Albert King
BB King
Albert Collins
Freddie King
Otis Rush
Lightning Hopkins
Elmore James
Robert Johnson
Hubert Sumlin
Buddy Guy
Johnny Winter
Blind Lemon Jefferson
T Bone Walker
Peter Greene


Posted by Shotgun Willie
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:26 pm to
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List me some must have records that I should get on vinyl























Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:55 pm to
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Without him, we mostly likely wouldn't have almost any of the great artist that we know and love


I know Clapton cites him as his number one influence but Clapton also cites B.B., muddy waters etc. Guys that were doing things in the ‘50s. Hendrix also cites guys like that who he was listening to in the ‘50s.

I know Johnson influenced Clapton but I just don’t think Johnson influenced anyone any more than the guys who were making music in the ‘50’s.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 8:11 pm
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:59 pm to
OG Bobby Johnson








The rest
Posted by kale
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:50 pm to
Clapton is not top 10, no soul and unoriginal. Clapton plays mostly lazy and uninspired. I feel like I had the best list because I put down the guys who defined the genre and will only have others try and take what they did and make something great
Posted by lammo
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:25 am to
LINK Jimi Hendrix


Incredible blues wizardry
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 1:26 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:29 am to
quote:

This is incorrect.

Johnson was around 10 years old in 1920. 18-20 in 1930. Johnson didn't become a "musician" till around 1930-32.

They guys that were influencing Johnson were the guys spreading the blues in the '20s.

Yeah your "age" timeline is a bit more accurate.

If there's any truth to the myth of RJ and after he made his deal with the devil, RJ became a real blues artist. My "put blues on the map" is actually correct but not with regards to selling albums but seeing live acts. RJ was a hug Son House fan and wanted to play like him but as Son said "RJ was a horrible guitar player" until almost overnight became great which makes the myth of him selling his soul seem legit.....did he? Who knows and frankly IDC, his music is the shite.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Clapton is not top 10, no soul and unoriginal. Clapton plays mostly lazy and uninspired. I feel like I had the best list because I put down the guys who defined the genre and will only have others try and take what they did and make something great



Honestly, give this a whirl and tell me if its lazy and uninspired?

Double Trouble Live - 1978
Posted by 24nights
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:45 pm to
How many times have you been inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame guy?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:52 pm to
I wouldn’t know which King to leave off?

I guess Albert.

Young BB was incredible. Freddie died young so he was always incredible.

Johnson
BB
Freddie
SRV
Clapton... Cause I like clapton.

Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:49 pm to
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Johnson
BB
Freddie
SRV
Clapton... Cause I like clapton.



Good list, I'd probably have Buddy Guy over Freddie, but to each their own, can't go wrong with any of them.
Posted by pecanridge
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 5:58 pm to
SRV influenced mainly by Albert King in style
Clapton by Freddie King
Don’t forget Slim Harpo from Louisiana (Stones, SRV)
Anything written by Willie Dixon
For local more recent blues men check out Snooks Eaglin and Tab Benoit
For Harmonica- Sonny Boy Williamson
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27872 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:12 pm to
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Buddy Guy over Freddie


Both could play and give you goosebumps, Freddie could SANG!!!!
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27872 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Tab Benoit


Everytime I hear him play one Bluesville I stop, "who is that?" Then see his name. Need to make a point to check him out.
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