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The Rolling Stones are the most influential rock band

Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:40 am
In history. They heavily influenced all of the early British Invasion bands. They influenced Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. They heavily influenced Soundgarden, AIC, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, STP and most all Gen X bands. What say the music board?
Posted by yattan
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:25 am to
Listening to their Black and Blue album right now. Almost over, think I will listen to it again.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:01 pm to
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What say the music board?

Stick to pulling teeth
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:40 pm to
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They influenced Zeppelin


No they didn’t.

They were rivals to Zeppelin. In fact, Zeppelin consistently outdrew them on their respective concert tours throughout the 70s, yet the Stones got all the press, all the love. And the guys in Zep resented it quite a bit.

This coming from a big fan of both bands.
Posted by Possumslayer
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:50 pm to
Sirius Xm is playing only Stones music on Classic Vinyl all weekend.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:53 pm to
Kafka I figured that we would be in agreement on this
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:26 pm to
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I figured that we would be in agreement on this
The Beatles are the most influential rock band in history.

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You can try to make a #2 case for the Stones, on the basis of all the R&B bands that came after them in the '60s. But Zep was enormously influential on metal (if little else).

Although he never sold in the same league as Zep or the Stones, David Bowie was hugely influential, not only on music but also fashion.

Even a cult act like the Velvet Underground can be considered, especially if you take into account their influence on Bowie ("The Velvets never sold many albums, but everyone who bought one of their albums started a band." - Brian Eno)
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:36 pm to
The biggest live performances were Elvis and Led Zeppelin in the 70s.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:02 pm to
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The biggest live performances were Elvis and Led Zeppelin in the 70s.


Which led to a very memorable meeting between the two acts (they were both promoted by the late Jerry Wentraub - memorable character in his own right). Jimmy, Robert, JPJ and Bonzo stood in Elvis’ dressing room all agog. Elvis in turn, asked for their autographs for Lisa Marie. Elvis also swapped his $5,000 gold & diamond watch with JPJ for JPJ’s $10 Mickey Mouse watch, and made sure that the band had front row seats for any of his shows that they wanted to attend. The evening ended with Elvis & Robert Plant jokingly duetting on Elvis’ “Love Me”.
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Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:17 pm to
Probably not, but I definitely prefer them over most bands from that era, including the Beatles.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:16 pm to
They borrowed heavily from the blues like many contemporaries and were the best at it but influential they were not.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:08 pm to
nope. #1 is the beatles and it isn't particularly close
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:27 pm to
Man I have to disagree. You are seeing through your Lennon rose tinted glasses at the Beatles. I love them too but the brevity of their career disqualifies them.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:31 pm to
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The Beatles are the most influential rock band in history.



That fact cannot be disputed- While there were early rockers like Buddy Holly & Gene Vincent, The Beatles were the group that had kids picking up a guitar and starting garage bands. I was surprised to hear someone like Van Morrison try to downplay the importance of The Beatles; I am a fan of Van the Man, but he is totally wrong, their influence was off the charts and there never would have been a 'British Invasion' without the Beatles first.
Young people today also will never realize how influencial Bob Dylan was- everyone listened to him and so many groups used his songs back in the 60's.
Another 'band' that was huge as to influence- Black Sabbath. I am not a big fan of 80's 'hair bands' but by the 90's, all top heavy hitters and metal bands cited Sabbath as a major influence, like Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pantera, etc.
As to The Stones, I prefer the earlier Brian Jones era, and I actually like them more than the Beatles, but as to their impact on music in general, they can't touch the Beatles.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:43 am to
Well who influenced the stones? I’d argue their influences are more influential. In a lot of cases it’s southern blues, soul music and other music genres with southern roots. Which I find really cool.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:13 am to
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am a fan of Van the Man, but he is totally wrong, their influence was off the charts and there never would have been a 'British Invasion' without the Beatles first.


Van Morrison seems like he’s always been a colossal prick. And goes out of his way to be contrarian. Hate being adored and admired? Be a plumber.

Love his music but he seems to live to rub people the wrong way.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 11:26 am to
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Man I have to disagree. You are seeing through your Lennon rose tinted glasses at the Beatles. I love them too but the brevity of their career disqualifies them.
It's not a matter of love, and I ain't looking through shite.

The Beatles' enormous popularity, and their willingness to alternate/mix genres, made them extraordinarily influential across a wide range of styles.

In the early years, they played/revived standard Chuck Berry R&R (which would get power-chorded and evolve into metal and punk), Beach Boysish harmonized rock in what would eventually be called folk-rock and then "power pop", and Brill Building pop.

All this filtered through their trademark: Everly Bros-influenced harmonies given a grittier R&B sound.

And that's not even the end of their EARLY influence. Roger McGuinn of The Byrds cites the Beatles cutting Buck Owens' "Act Naturally" as influencing his own decision to explore country music, which would result in hiring Gram Parsons for the seminal album Sweetheart of the Rodeo. The Byrds' influence still resonates today w/Americana and alt.country. And you can trace it one step further back to the Beatles.

Notice I haven't mentioned their influence with psychedelia or orchestrated rock. OR the enormous impact they had on fashion, with the haircuts and mod clothes, or on filmmaking (Andrew Sarris called A Hard Day's Night "the Citizen Kane of jukebox musicals").

Just the simple fact of Beatlemania made them super-influential. If you lived through the era or have studied it, you know that tens of thousands of garage band sprung up all over the country, in even the tiniest towns; Bunkie, Louisiana had several, and one of them, the Barracudas, even got to cut a record. OK, so it's a Stones imitation. The fact that a Bunkie band even got the chance to record at all can be credited to the Fab Four.

The Beatles are by far the most influential band in rock history. It isn't arguable. So please stop arguing about it.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:56 pm to
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Man I have to disagree. You are seeing through your Lennon rose tinted glasses at the Beatles. I love them too but the brevity of their career disqualifies them.


Terrible take. The Stones would ride the Beatles coattails and often blatantly copy their style on subsequent records (see Their Majesties Satanic Requests and Sgt Pepper).
Posted by musick
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:32 pm to
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the Beatles. I love them too but the brevity of their career disqualifies them.


Honestly it's quite the opposite, the impact, progression, genre change, experimentation and growth they had in just 9 short years cements the GOAT and most influential status.

It's not even close tbh. The Stones are great but the Beatles were so much more, the Stones stayed in their comfort zone
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 1:33 pm
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:46 pm to
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. . . the Beatles. I love them too but the brevity of their career disqualifies them.
Yet 50 years later you're locked into arguing over their influence....and their still making millions, even the dead ones.... a half century later.

You sure about brevity?
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