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re: The Cars: Orr or Ocasek?
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:30 pm to beauxgy
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:30 pm to beauxgy
"He stated he was probably proudest of the Touch and Go solo."
I actually know a guitar tutor that knows Eliott very well. He says he's a really nice guy, and loves to talk.
He relayed a story Elliot told to him about them touring Great Britain in the late 70s with Graham Parker before they had a contract.
I guess Ocasek left a notebook full of music and lyrics in a van after a gig and Parker found it later and ripped them in the press about the lyrics. A lot of those songs ended up being huge hits later throughout their first two albums.
I actually know a guitar tutor that knows Eliott very well. He says he's a really nice guy, and loves to talk.
He relayed a story Elliot told to him about them touring Great Britain in the late 70s with Graham Parker before they had a contract.
I guess Ocasek left a notebook full of music and lyrics in a van after a gig and Parker found it later and ripped them in the press about the lyrics. A lot of those songs ended up being huge hits later throughout their first two albums.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 4:31 pm
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:17 pm to hogcard1964
EE does come across as approachable and down to earth. Maybe your friend can solve the "Its all I can do" mystery for us.
I think Benjamin Orr also lost some treasured instruments in a fire at a Boston area apartment he was staying in during the late 70's.
eta, I had read that Rics notebook was lost or stolen in Europe. I think they mention this in the hard to watch final interview....
I think Benjamin Orr also lost some treasured instruments in a fire at a Boston area apartment he was staying in during the late 70's.
eta, I had read that Rics notebook was lost or stolen in Europe. I think they mention this in the hard to watch final interview....
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:19 pm to Saint Alfonzo
These are my favorite Cars songs, so Orr:
Just What I Needed
Bye Bye Love
Moving In Stereo
Let's Go
Just What I Needed
Bye Bye Love
Moving In Stereo
Let's Go
Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:22 pm to Shockthamonkey
quote:
Just What I Needed
Bye Bye Love
Let's Go
These are my top 3 without any hesitation.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:29 pm to AlxTgr
"Don't go to pieces" is a cool B side from the "Just what I needed" greatest hits double CD.
I'm too much of a fan boy to pick a favorite song though.
Don't go to pieces
I'm too much of a fan boy to pick a favorite song though.
Don't go to pieces
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:56 pm to hogcard1964
quote:do you have any more details?
a story Elliot told to him about them touring Great Britain in the late 70s with Graham Parker before they had a contract.
I guess Ocasek left a notebook full of music and lyrics in a van after a gig and Parker found it later and ripped them in the press about the lyrics.
I'm a GP fan and am curious why he "ripped" them
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:37 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 2/24/22 at 4:41 am to wareaglepete
Orr just based off songs. Like more of those than the others. Both lists are great tho
Posted on 2/24/22 at 5:22 am to Kafka
Unfortunately no, that's really all I remember. I'm no longer regularly in touch with him.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 4:05 pm to beauxgy
quote:
He stated he was probably proudest of the Touch and Go solo.
One of my favorites!
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:03 pm to wareaglepete
Orr because you have to add Candy-O and It's All I Can Do to your Orr list.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:32 am to rebelrouser
To be truthful they have a lot of songs where if I have not seen a video I have a hard time telling who is singing. Their production style didn't exactly blast the vocals out in front of the music and to me their vocal styles are kind of similar. There is stuff of theirs that is clearly Ocasek singing (You Might Think, Shake It Up, Misfit Kid, Since You're Gone, etc.) but a lot of the songs Orr sang on don't sound much different from Ocasek vocal songs. Hell, it wasn't until I saw some old Midnight Special video a few years ago that I found out Orr sang Just What I Needed. I'd always thought that was Ocasek.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 10:08 am to Kafka
quote:
I'm a GP fan
Maybe the most underrated rocker of all time. Absolutely love the guy.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:34 pm to wareaglepete
Sorry if I am monopolizing or derailing thread, but for those who are interested, these are IMO, the performances that defined the band.
Rock Goes to College, they were not appreciated in Britain and we're heckled, and an angry Benjamin Orr stares down a drink thrower during Bye Bye Love. Easton stares down same drink-thrower during blistering solos, Hawkes with an incredible saxophone on All Mixed Up. Epic My Best Friend's Girl solo. Aloof Ric cool as a cuke and Robinson driving the beat. They played this show with a huge chip on their shoulders.
Cars-Rock Goes to College
Germany, Musikladen. Incredible performance. Ric chewing gum while singing, Greg Hawkes in a Star Trek shirt bouncing around the stage having the time of his life on guitar and Benjamin Orr at his absolute best with bonus air kick in Take What You Want and best ever Candy O live.
Musikladen
France. Not much footage:
Cars-France
Eta, anyone who watches these videos will realize Orr and Ocasek sound distinctly different.
Rock Goes to College, they were not appreciated in Britain and we're heckled, and an angry Benjamin Orr stares down a drink thrower during Bye Bye Love. Easton stares down same drink-thrower during blistering solos, Hawkes with an incredible saxophone on All Mixed Up. Epic My Best Friend's Girl solo. Aloof Ric cool as a cuke and Robinson driving the beat. They played this show with a huge chip on their shoulders.
Cars-Rock Goes to College
Germany, Musikladen. Incredible performance. Ric chewing gum while singing, Greg Hawkes in a Star Trek shirt bouncing around the stage having the time of his life on guitar and Benjamin Orr at his absolute best with bonus air kick in Take What You Want and best ever Candy O live.
Musikladen
France. Not much footage:
Cars-France
Eta, anyone who watches these videos will realize Orr and Ocasek sound distinctly different.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:39 pm to wareaglepete
These are two underrated gems from Ocasek….
The Cars - I’m Not the One
The Cars - Why Can’t I Have You
The Cars - I’m Not the One
The Cars - Why Can’t I Have You
Posted on 2/28/22 at 5:26 am to wareaglepete
Touch and Go is a cool song with a really tasty guitar solo. John Lennon liked this song.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:32 am to wareaglepete
Good Times Roll is the best Cars song
Album 1 Song 1
Album 1 Song 1
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:57 am to The Boat
It's one of the few I skip.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 10:24 am to beauxgy
Orr made me feel better about myself. I have been learning "Just What I Needed" for my band. I play bass and I am singing it. It is hard to play bass and sing. As I am learning it, I have to keep looking down to make sure I am playing the right thing. That is not a big deal when not singing a song, but when I am singing, I am self-conscious about having to look at the fretboard.
Well, I saw a Cars video of the song and don't you know, Orr is constantly looking down at his fretboard while singing the song. Ok, I feel better now. Sometimes watching live performances can give you a boost.
Midnight Special The Cars "Just What I Needed"
Well, I saw a Cars video of the song and don't you know, Orr is constantly looking down at his fretboard while singing the song. Ok, I feel better now. Sometimes watching live performances can give you a boost.
Midnight Special The Cars "Just What I Needed"
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:31 am to wareaglepete
Wareaglepete, here is the isolated vocals and bass, and 2 cover vids ive used:
Orr isolated JWIN
Bass Cover
Cover 2
Eta EE isolated guitar (dat solo!)
JWIN isolated guitar
Orr isolated JWIN
Bass Cover
Cover 2
Eta EE isolated guitar (dat solo!)
JWIN isolated guitar
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 10:11 am
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