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Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:19 pm to
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The Black Crowes

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Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:38 pm to
Saw them once and enjoyed it big time. But I would never want to meet Chris no Richard.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:22 pm to
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Hotel Illness



Sorry. Garbage tune.

Great album. shite tune.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:13 pm to
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Ultimately they dropped the ball when they tried to go all jam bandy. Damn shame. If they could have made a whole career of albums like Southern Harmony, Amorica and By Your Side,


They went all “jambandy” around 96. By your side came out in 99, so your timeline doesnt line up.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:02 pm to
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Saw them open for ZZ Top too. They sounded great live.


Before ZZTop played in Lafayette, Chris Robinson made some snide comment about them being sponsored by no one and Budweiser insisted they be replaced. So I got to see a group called Hall Aflame. Quite possibly the worst band I have ever paid to see.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:29 pm to
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Hotel Illness


quote:

Sometimes Salvation


Thorn in my Pride
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:41 am to
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They went all “jambandy” around 96. By your side came out in 99, so your timeline doesnt line up.

By then they were letting you tape concerts but I wouldn't say full jambandy IMO until around Chris Robinson did New Earth Mud. Listening to Lions, it still has a Zeppelin vibe and rock funk to it at times. I think they were starting to appeal to the jamband types because of their pro-marijuana stance, recording concerts, and being invited to play at a furthur festival then but musically I wouldn't say until later. If asked me with a gun to my head, I wouldn't even label them as one but that's me.

I guess they kind of have the blurred line of crossover fans like The Allman Brothers. Jamband fans and old rockers/stoner types. Those early concerts I went too you were not seeing any jam band frat stars, neo-hippies, trustafarian, burnouts. Again, just my take on a great band.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:43 am to
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Hotel Illness


quote:

Sometimes Salvation


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Thorn in my Pride


Black Moon Creeping
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:44 am to
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Sorry. Garbage tune.

Great album. shite tune.

Sonic, name town and time!
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:22 pm to
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By then they were letting you tape concerts but I wouldn't say full jambandy IMO until around Chris Robinson did New Earth Mud.


Disagree. They were on furthur festival the summer of 97. Shows were jam fests. I saw 4 or 5 shows that summer, fun tour.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:27 pm to
Furthur 97

I mean, its really all semantics and labels are whatever, BUT they were jamming.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 5:47 pm to
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They were on furthur festival the summer of 97.

And they toured with Oasis and Spacehog in '01 but I wouldn't label them alternative or pop. I'll stand by what I posted until that first breakup. Crowes were rockers first but gained some jamband fans. New Earth Mud is when Chris started exploring jam style shows more to the character of jam bands. I saw them at Numbers in Houston early 2000's and thought, he's going jam style now playing 10 minute songs and even playing some Dead.

Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 6:19 am to
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And they toured with Oasis and Spacehog in '01 but I wouldn't label them alternative or pop


You obviously havent listened to those furthur shows from 97.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:55 am to
I was pulling groceries at AG when Southern Harmony came out and I can remember how it totally dominated my musical life at that time. Every day, it was on non stop repeat. I'd be riding down the aisles, singing the songs.

I didn't hate Hotel Illness yet at that point, but it was definitely not as good as the rest of the album.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
779 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:08 am to
To add my upvote to the crowes. Southern Harmony and Amorica came out in my early teenage years when you become obsessed with music and specific bands, the Black Crowes were at the top for me. They’re one of the few bands from that time that I can still listen to heavily.
I saw them with my brotherthe last time I think they were in nola at the Mahalia. Was one of the late night jazz fest shows. Jackie Green was on the bill. Hadn’t heard of him at the time. As the Crowes came on, I asked these two young ladies in front of me what happened to Jackie opened. They both rolled their eyes and told he was sooooooo amazing and was sitting in with the band. Guh! Was the first time in my life that I actually felt old. Bitches.

Anyway, is it just me or us Wiser Time the perfect road song?
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 8:10 am
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24864 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:14 am to
One of the last great southern rock bands, in my humble opinion. I like them a lot. They also do some great covers in addition to their original music.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
17037 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:17 am to
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Great stuff. Their By Your Side album doesn't get enough credit as it sounded like a throwback album of sorts


I think it is by far their best studio album. It's the only album of theirs that doesn't have any real duds on it.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
17037 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:25 am to
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They were meant to be the modern classic rock band that carried the torch with dignity. Ultimately they dropped the ball when they tried to go all jam bandy. Damn shame. If they could have made a whole career of albums like Southern Harmony, Amorica and By Your Side, kept their childishness in check and just rocked the way they rock best, they would be upper echelon legends and then some.


They never really made a bad album (though practically every album had at least one awful song on it) but other than By Your Side I'm not sure they ever made a great one. Certainly nothing on the level of say Exile on Main Street or Physical Graffiti. I would still have no problems at all putting them in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

That said I always felt they were more a rock and roll band from the south than they were a Southern rock band. When they first started out it seemed to me a safe bet that they were spending more time listening to the Stones and the Faces than they were Lynard Skynard or the Allman Brothers. By the time they were through they might have been spending more time listening to The Band than anyone else.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:16 am to
You posted it, semantics. Those early shows, they would extend Thorn in My Pride or have extended solos or intros in songs, but to me, about every rock band does that to an extent. I'll carry the same opinion of RockAndRollDetective except I didn't mind them going jam style direction. It's just a band evolving.

But this Black Crowes is hard to top.
High as the Moon 2-6-93 Houston
Funny thing how he addresses the crowd to chill twice. In Hammond, two nights earlier, he stopped Sting Me cold early to scream at two guys crowd surfing, "HEY, We aren't Nirvana man, chill and just watch the show and respect your neighbor man."
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:40 am to
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the Stones and the Faces than they were Lynard Skynard or the Allman Brothers. By the time they were through they might have been spending more time listening to The Band than anyone else.

This and Humble Pie. I've heard Chris allude to this in some interviews.
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