re: The Beatles are The Most Overrated Band Of All Time

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dukke v

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The GOAT hath spoken

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dukke v

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Finally, the voice of reason

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Let's be real here, every album before Rubber soul was... not good

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I agree 100%....absolutely....just 50's doo-wop rehashed...just as everything else was in the early to mid 60's But what happened at Abbey Road St. John's Wood / EMI from 1966 to 1969 launched innovations and opened doors for modern or popular music into the art forms that we have today. I agree it was a synergy of George Martin and two or three exceptionally creative fellows but there's not a major record producer today that has not studied those sessions as if they were the Holy Grail. The palettes that were left to be used from those sessions still stand as the "encyclopedia" or "Bible" of pop / rock music.. Even the high end manufacturers and circuit designers of state-of-the-art production equipment, processors, recording consoles, mics, etc, still strive to recreate the myriad of sounds and textures that were born there. Songwriters and musicians, whether they know it or not are still using the templates that opened up and branched out to genres and sub-genres of lyrical expression and using textures of sound to create landscapes the listener can to escape to and stimulate his/her imagination. It's still the way music is made today and not much in the way of production has changed since. Just listen to 12 hours daily of the 1930's & 1940's crooners, the 1950's and 60's doo-woppers, the R&B and county western balladeers of those periods singing the accepted verse-chorus-bridge-outro format, the almost mindless, innocuous tales of teen puppy love, dreamy romance, and heartache, ad nauseum... ..Do that for about a month to get an understanding of what music was to society in general for decades up until 1965, skip '66-'69, jump to 1970, put on some Zappa, Bowie, Ramones, Dead, Led Zep and up to Marley, Nirvana, The Mars Volta, Radiohead, St. Vincent, ...and Kanye. Those four years at EMI bridged the gap and opened it up to all that followed.

I didn't mean to write War and Peace but I can't agree more about the Beatles first ten or so albums... but it would be hard to overrate what was conceived in and born of the rest.

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The Beatles

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Not the greatest musicians

Objectively the greatest band of all time

How was your backstage visit with One Direction?

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Not the greatest musicians

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The Beatles were very underrated as musicians. Just because, in the early years, they wore their little suits and the little girls screamed so loud they couldn't hear themselves singing & playing they were considered by many to be a "boy band" and not good musicians. They didn't really start maturing as musicians until they quit touring in 1966 and went in the studio full time. McCartney was probably the most talented. He played bass, piano, guitar, lead guitar on several songs and drums on some songs when Ringo had quit for a short time in 1968 or 1969. He played ALL the instruments on his first solo album "Cherries". Lennon played rhythm guitar, lead guitar on some songs, piano, and harmonica. Harrison played lead guitar, slide, bass and the sitar. Ringo was a good drummer with excellent timing that was a perfect fit for them. He actually was "hand-picked" by George Martin out of all the drummers in England. Just because Harrison didn't rip out a 3 minute lead and Starr didn't have a 5 minute drum solo didn't mean they weren't good musicians. The Beatles didn't write songs that included long guitar leads or drum solos. They were more into lyrics, harmonies & melodies. Regardless of what anyone thinks of The Beatles as musicians there is one fact that is undebatable. The Beatles were the GOAT!

GAME OVER

I think you have everyone convinced this time. Not so sure that you understand what you have convinced everyone of.