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Rap is musical cancer
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:02 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:02 am
I’m fueling up at the corner station listening to what I can best describe as brain damage set to a beat.
It was fun in the 80s, maybe early 90s, but around the late nineties this stuff took over pop music and overall music quality went spiraling into the sewer with it.
Will it ever die or just continue to rot every genre known to humankind with it’s “influence?”
It was fun in the 80s, maybe early 90s, but around the late nineties this stuff took over pop music and overall music quality went spiraling into the sewer with it.
Will it ever die or just continue to rot every genre known to humankind with it’s “influence?”
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:08 am to AUCom96
Hip hop as a whole ended when Tupac & Biggie both got capped.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:55 am to AUCom96
IMO, the worst damage was the death of pop/rock, which in turn created a void for an entire generation. Hence the birth of Bro Country.
The effects of rap/auto tune/drum machines has taken a heavy toil on music.
The effects of rap/auto tune/drum machines has taken a heavy toil on music.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:03 am to geauxbrown
quote:It's not even music, its sound imitating music.
The effects of rap/auto tune/drum machines has taken a heavy toil on music.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:04 am to AUCom96
I'm not a huge fan of rap or most hip hop, but most of it at least has some soul and emotion to it. Can't say the same for bro country.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:19 am to AUCom96
I hated it in the 2000s only because I saw what was coming down the pipe. It was getting worse and worse, and you just knew in a decade how bad it was going to be.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:35 am to AUCom96
Talentless crap
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:43 am to AUCom96
I could at least enjoy the 80's and 90's stuff a little because there was at least some sampled actual music behind it. Now, it is just a monotonous electronic drum beat with someone mumbling real fast over it. That is it. There is no music to it at all. It is awful. And trap beats should be made illegal. They have been rolling out those same trap beats for about 20 years. Enough already.
And I hear about genius with some of these folks because of the beats they come up with. Are you freaking kidding me. I guarandamntee you I could pull up to a drum machine and put out the same crappy beats. There is no genius there.
Now get the hell off my lawn.
And I hear about genius with some of these folks because of the beats they come up with. Are you freaking kidding me. I guarandamntee you I could pull up to a drum machine and put out the same crappy beats. There is no genius there.
Now get the hell off my lawn.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:46 am to AUCom96
I was just starting middle school when rap blew up in the early 80s. It was something new but I always thought that it was a fad that would play out in 5 years or so, at the most. Was obviously wrong on that one.
It's the comic book franchise of music... no matter how stupid and repetitive it gets, there seems to be no shortage of people with shitty taste to keep the fad going.
It's the comic book franchise of music... no matter how stupid and repetitive it gets, there seems to be no shortage of people with shitty taste to keep the fad going.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:25 am to The Spleen
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Can't say the same for bro country.
Its worse than bro country. If that's possible.
Its the lyrical version of 5th graders trying to be hip. Where do you think bro country came from? It's twangy hip hop.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 11:27 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:41 am to AUCom96
You can’t say you’ve never had fun grinding on some drunk b$&@hes to some Juvenile, Lil Jon, or Ludacris at the club or a party unless you’re a goddamn liar or really really really old.
So, remember how I said that pop punk’s mainstream popularity hinges on it filled a niche for fun music that girls could dance to that boys weren’t ashamed to enjoy as well? Hip hop fills a different niche also largely vacated by rock n roll music in the 90’s: songs that make you feel like a 10ft tall bullet proof badass.
In the 70’s, you had music like “Stranglehold”, “Rock Candy”, and “Hair of the Dog” that made you feel cool and confident just listening to it. Grunge, by and large, didn’t do that, and neither did Pop Punk. See, those genres are all about vulnerability and pain. There will always be a genre for folks who want music that makes them feel cool, confident, and sexy, and hip hop filled that niche in spades in the late 90’s. Webbie, Boosie, DMX, etc feels like you’re going to war with an army at your back, like no one can hurt you and every woman wants your dick. It’s a similar feeling, I’d imagine, that teens in the late 70’s felt when they heard Van Halen 1 for the first time.
A lot of other hip hop influenced pop music like Beyonce became anthems for single women who wanted to dance, basically marrying 80’s disco with 90’s techno and 2000’s hip hop.
Current mumble rap is largely derivative garbage. It doesn’t feel cool or sexy. In fact, in most of the current trap music, the lyrics are much more self-serious, vulnerable, and sad than one would expect from hip hop. As a result, hip hop is losing ground in pop culture to Korean Pop music. Current rap feels very stagnant, much like bro country or hair metal in 1990, and poised for a new genre of music, or a new style of rap to take over.
So, remember how I said that pop punk’s mainstream popularity hinges on it filled a niche for fun music that girls could dance to that boys weren’t ashamed to enjoy as well? Hip hop fills a different niche also largely vacated by rock n roll music in the 90’s: songs that make you feel like a 10ft tall bullet proof badass.
In the 70’s, you had music like “Stranglehold”, “Rock Candy”, and “Hair of the Dog” that made you feel cool and confident just listening to it. Grunge, by and large, didn’t do that, and neither did Pop Punk. See, those genres are all about vulnerability and pain. There will always be a genre for folks who want music that makes them feel cool, confident, and sexy, and hip hop filled that niche in spades in the late 90’s. Webbie, Boosie, DMX, etc feels like you’re going to war with an army at your back, like no one can hurt you and every woman wants your dick. It’s a similar feeling, I’d imagine, that teens in the late 70’s felt when they heard Van Halen 1 for the first time.
A lot of other hip hop influenced pop music like Beyonce became anthems for single women who wanted to dance, basically marrying 80’s disco with 90’s techno and 2000’s hip hop.
Current mumble rap is largely derivative garbage. It doesn’t feel cool or sexy. In fact, in most of the current trap music, the lyrics are much more self-serious, vulnerable, and sad than one would expect from hip hop. As a result, hip hop is losing ground in pop culture to Korean Pop music. Current rap feels very stagnant, much like bro country or hair metal in 1990, and poised for a new genre of music, or a new style of rap to take over.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:03 pm to Crow Pie
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It's not even music, its sound imitating music
That’s because the sounds aren’t meant to mimic lyrical melodic instruments like a church organ, choir, or symphony, but instead are used as percussion. It’s not about the note being played but the impact it makes. Rap and hip hop is not about melody nearly as much as rhythm. European music is largely descended from church music, which is all about melody, harmony, and chords with very little percussive rhythm as dancing was not the purpose, and was, if anything discouraged. African music was all about chanting and dancing to percussion, thus so are the musical forms that descended from it.
Jazz was a marriage of the melodic and chord structures of European music with the rhythms of African music. This was able to happen because Congo Square in New Orleans was the only public place in North America where slaves were legally permitted to gather and make their own music. Rock n roll grew from jazz and blues, thus it has the rhythms and the melodies and chords (typically). Rap, by and large, does not.
FYI, not a fan of rap and hip hop. I just recognize that it has a place in pop culture for a reason.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:41 pm to AUCom96
Its easy to produce, its easy to promote, its easy to trend with, its easy to manipulate, its easy to exploit and its easy to take advantage of, deceive and swindle uneducated money chasing individuals by simply calling them "arists".
Its only going to get worse. Mumble rap is a thing. Next will be speaking while breathing-in rap
Its only going to get worse. Mumble rap is a thing. Next will be speaking while breathing-in rap
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:45 pm to sodcutterjones
quote:i remember looking down my pipe too and hating everything that was being pushed.
only because I saw what was coming down the pipe.
Had Eminem not emerged as the cool version of vanilla ice, white kids (largest buyers) may have looked elsewhere for angst
Posted on 7/31/21 at 7:12 am to AUCom96
Not a fan of rap but y’all sound like a bunch of crusty old white dudes
Posted on 7/31/21 at 7:26 am to AUCom96
Rap isn’t a musical style. It’s a vocal style. Hip-hop is the musical style. I prefer singing to rap although some rap is okay. I just don’t think it should be ubiquitous and so much of it just seems to sound so similar in meter and rhythm. I think the only direction it can evolve is to go back to singing. And please don’t use Auto-Tune because that just means you can’t sing.
As far as hip-hop goes, I’m hardly an expert and not really in a position to judge. A lot of it sounds indistinguishable to me from artist to artist but I’ve also heard some diversity in styles and some things that sound good. As an old Deadhead, strut and attitude don’t really appeal to me. Just play. I don’t know what they used to play at the Rouge bar at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas but if there’s such a thing a “smooth hip-hop,” that’s what I would’ve called it. I liked that. (And loved that bar.)
I don’t know where that music evolves from where it’s at but I’m ready to see something new come along. I don’t have a problem with playing a laptop, but how about playing real instruments too? Every time I hear someone talk about killer beats, I’m never impressed. How about playing polyrhythms? Be more complex, more challenging, more interesting.
Stand still and play. Also, get off my lawn.
As far as hip-hop goes, I’m hardly an expert and not really in a position to judge. A lot of it sounds indistinguishable to me from artist to artist but I’ve also heard some diversity in styles and some things that sound good. As an old Deadhead, strut and attitude don’t really appeal to me. Just play. I don’t know what they used to play at the Rouge bar at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas but if there’s such a thing a “smooth hip-hop,” that’s what I would’ve called it. I liked that. (And loved that bar.)
I don’t know where that music evolves from where it’s at but I’m ready to see something new come along. I don’t have a problem with playing a laptop, but how about playing real instruments too? Every time I hear someone talk about killer beats, I’m never impressed. How about playing polyrhythms? Be more complex, more challenging, more interesting.
Stand still and play. Also, get off my lawn.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 7:29 am to kingbob
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So, remember how I said that pop punk’s mainstream popularity hinges on it filled a niche for fun music that girls could dance to that boys weren’t ashamed to enjoy as well? Hip hop fills a different niche also largely vacated by rock n roll music in the 90’s: songs that make you feel like a 10ft tall bullet proof badass.
n the 70’s, you had music like “Stranglehold”, “Rock Candy”, and “Hair of the Dog” that made you feel cool and confident just listening to it. Grunge, by and large, didn’t do that, and neither did Pop Punk. See, those genres are all about vulnerability and pain. There will always be a genre for folks who want music that makes them feel cool, confident, and sexy, and hip hop filled that niche in spades in the late 90’s.
You genuinely have some retarded arse takes. You invent justifications that come out of your own experience, I guess, and then apply them wildly. It's like reading the worst of pop psychology applied to music.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 7:40 am to kingbob
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Rock n roll grew from jazz and blues, thus it has the rhythms and the melodies and chords (typically). Rap, by and large, does not.
The contention here is that rap (a vocal style) and hip-hop (a musical style) don't have melodies? And rap has much of its origins too in blues and jazz, with early precursors being tracks from Joe Hill Louis like Gotta Let You Go and stuff from people like Red Saunders, Harmonica Frank Floyd, the Soul Stirrers' and Slim Gaillard. Confusing a vocal style with its accompaniment and then suggesting that the vocal style has no 'chords' is a deeply nonsensical statement.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:20 am to LSUBrown
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Not a fan of rap but y’all sound like a bunch of crusty old white dudes
No one gives a shite about rap but dumb white girls, black people and wannabe's. If you like it, you like it and don't need justification. Never understood people getting their feelings so hurt by someone disliking their music.
I feel the same about bro country, pop music in general.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 8:22 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:38 am to kingbob
Yes
Sh]^ sells
Sh]^ sells
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