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re: Prince is dead at 57

Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:24 am to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:24 am to
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He was supremely talented and influential. But to call him a top 5 artist EVER is straight up hilarious.


Prince is one of the greatest musicians to have ever lived. Ever.

He was the Mozart of modern music. There have been NONE like him and we may never see another like him. Certainly not in our lifetime.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:27 am to
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In the 20th century? Robert Johnson, Louis Armstrong, Elvis Presley, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix...that's eight off the top of my head just from the past 100 years. And that's without mentioning Bowie or Clapton.


Prince is better than literally every single person you just named. From a musical talent standpoint, you haven't named one his equal. You'd have to go back to Mozart, Beethoven, etc... to find names that belong in the same sentence as Prince. Regardless of whether or not you enjoyed his music. Talent.
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:37 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:41 am to
I'll be honest with you Tuscaloosa, didn't see you as a huge Prince fan.

Its always odd seeing posters on non-rant boards.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:49 am to
He was my favorite musician. Best live performance I've ever seen from any musician was his 2004 Musicology/Greatest Hits tour in Birmingam. Truly a revolutionary artist who could literally do it all. It's been a sad day.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:46 am to
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but the NFL always has it pulled.


Just another reason to loathe the NFL now.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:53 am to
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randybobandy


You've already lost your dignity in this thread. I would quit while I was ahead. And no way you are over thirty.
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:22 am to
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Most underrated Prince songs: I'll start


Pink Cashmere
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 8:47 am to
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Prince is better than literally every single person you just named. From a musical talent standpoint, you haven't named one his equal. You'd have to go back to Mozart, Beethoven, etc... to find names that belong in the same sentence as Prince.


Posted by danman6336
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:08 am to
Prince is literally better than every artist ever outside of maybe Mozart

-crazy people on TD
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:45 am to
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Prince is one of the greatest musicians to have ever lived. Ever.

uh, lol, no

If Prince hadn't died he wouldn't be cracking most people's Top 10 list:

Paul McCartney
John Lennon
Brian Wilson
Michael Jackson
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springsteen
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Dylan
Johnny Cash
Billy Joel
Elvis Presley
Stevie Wonder (bonus points for handicap)
Elton John
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:09 am to
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He was the Mozart of modern music.


Lay off the drugs, brah
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:29 am to
well Prince and Wolfgang were writing songs at about the same age and both were a virtuoso. It's a shame Wolfgang never did anything as awful as Batdance though.

Saying something like a top 5 is only ridiculous bc list are so subjective. I'd have him over Bob Dylan b/c he appealed to and influenced a wider audience and was a bigger cultural icon. But that's me. I guess after Dylan passes, we'll see if they're lighting up worldwide cultural landmarks to recognize his death.
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 10:33 am
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:34 am to
This is an old article, but I find the thesis interesting:

LINK

In the span of 6 months, three different artists in three different genres from Minneapolis all released albums considered to be classics, and among the greatest albums in their genre: Prince's Purple Rain, Husker Du's Zen Arcade, and the Replacements' Let It Be.

Despite this massive explosion of talent and productivity, there is no trail of articles proclaiming the Minneapolis sound, like there was for Detroit or would later be for Seattle. Yet they played the same clubs, and certainly shared some of the same audience (I mean, how many scenesters can there be in Minneapolis?). There's almost no way these bands DIDN'T influence one another, but at the same time, none of them sound all that similar, and their ambitions all seem opposite of one another.

The one thing all three artists had was the feel of an outsider. Minneapolis was flyover country before the term existed. Even worse, Minneapolis isn't just overshadowed by the coasts, but by Chicago (and Detroit, musically speaking). No one came from Minneapolis and went on to anything in the music industry, until Prince (yes, Dylan... but he wasn't a part of a Minnesota scene, he high tailed it NYC as soon as he could, and honed his skills there).

Husker Du raged against the mainstream, the 'Mats tried to be aloof from it, but Prince... man, he made the mainstream come to him.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:41 pm to
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If Prince hadn't died he wouldn't be cracking most people's Top 10 list:



I don't care whose Top 10 list he wouldn't crack. He's more musically gifted than every single person you just listed.

The fact that you include Elvis, Johnny Cash, Billy Joel, Michael Jackson, etc... is a complete joke.

Elvis ripped off other peoples' music his entire career and was pretty good with a guitar and maybe a piano. That's about it. Johnny Cash was a one trick pony with one instrument and one "sound." Has anyone ever seen Michael Jackson play an instrument... ever?

Prince could play any instrument you put in front of him and make it sound like it was the only instrument he ever played.

In fact, in his first 5 albums, he played pretty much every single instrument for every track that he produced.

Lots of ignorance in this thread.
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:52 pm to
Wether you like they guy or not he's a better MUSICIAN than a lot of those mentioned.


Do you think Cash could play like Prince? Or Elvis? Or Michael Jackson?

Bob Dylan is the greatest lyricist of all time IMO, but he's not as good of a musician as Prince. When you can play 30 instruments, or however many he can play, you're an insanely talented musician.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Lots of ignorance in this thread.

Maybe we should start here:
quote:

Musician - a composer, conductor, or performer of music

Elvis, Johnny & Elton shaped entire genres with their performance abilities. Same with Paul and John with the Beatles, then individually

Those 5 impacted the course of music history far more than Prince has. And that's not even getting into the impact they had on movies, TV, fashion, culture
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:56 pm to
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In fact, in his first 5 albums, he played pretty much every single instrument for every track that he produced.


John Fogerty has pulled that off a few times, and he's not the only one.

Show Offs! 20 Albums Where One Super-Talented Musician Plays Every Instrument
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:58 pm to
Ok, Prince composed and played music with more skill than those people.



This isn't a popularity contest. Let's try to be objective here. I realize music in most ways is judged subjectively, but you can look at skill levels and judge them objectively. Prince had more skill, musically, than those. That's not to say he was more of an icon, or had the better music, or whatever; but he's the most skilled musician based on the fact he could play so many instruments exceptionally well, write, compose, conduct and so on.
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:13 pm to
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Elvis, Johnny & Elton shaped entire genres with their performance abilities.


It's the musical talent combined with this performance ability that makes him better than that entire list.

The entire list.

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