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Paging FretShack - Vintage Guitar Repair
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:18 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:18 am
My grandfather left me his 1957 Martin. I want someone to look it over for potential truss rod issues. I don't suspect any from playing, just want a more seasoned eye on it. There are also some small scratches in the body I would like repaired. Not sure of where to start or who's best at bringing this beauty back in the BR area. Thanks for the help.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:28 am to Devious
I’m no expert when it comes to repairs but when it comes to scratches are you sure you want to repair them? Scratches are what makes a guitar unique. Think of it this way, your grandfather put those scratches there. You sure you want to patch over that? Just something to consider.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:32 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I probably put half of those scratches there in my teens
But you're right. I didnt even think of it like that.
But you're right. I didnt even think of it like that.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:34 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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your grandfather put those scratches there
Character marks.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:36 pm to Devious
I don't like to fix anything that doesn't affect playability or sound.
The older and more valuable the guitar, the more that is true.
Now, with a really nice, high end vintage guitar if an expert told me, "Spend $X and you'll triple your repair money" and I was going to sell it, I would consider it. But even then, if it was a nice looking, playable example, I think you get a better value unrestored because:
1. You don't risk your restoration money (or damage during restoration), and
2. You don't know what folks want - you might turn off the guy looking to buy it - you could end up losing value depending on the market.
So, for a personal, heirloom guitar, I super duper don't want to futz around with repairing cosmetic things because that's the fingerprint of the guitar.
The older and more valuable the guitar, the more that is true.
Now, with a really nice, high end vintage guitar if an expert told me, "Spend $X and you'll triple your repair money" and I was going to sell it, I would consider it. But even then, if it was a nice looking, playable example, I think you get a better value unrestored because:
1. You don't risk your restoration money (or damage during restoration), and
2. You don't know what folks want - you might turn off the guy looking to buy it - you could end up losing value depending on the market.
So, for a personal, heirloom guitar, I super duper don't want to futz around with repairing cosmetic things because that's the fingerprint of the guitar.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:41 pm to Devious
you know, I'll take one for the team and take that old guitar off your hands sight unseen.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:04 pm to TheCurmudgeon
A 1957 Martin won't have an adjustable truss rod. It has an internal T-bar for reinforcement.
Any neck hokeys will need to be addressed via a saddle/bridge modification, fingerboard releveling/reradiusing as part of a refret, a neck reset, or a combination of all three.
Before you put money into cosmetic repairs, be prepared for potentially a sizeable $$$ investment in structural integrity and playability things first.
Google my handle and you'll find the phone number to my shop.
Any neck hokeys will need to be addressed via a saddle/bridge modification, fingerboard releveling/reradiusing as part of a refret, a neck reset, or a combination of all three.
Before you put money into cosmetic repairs, be prepared for potentially a sizeable $$$ investment in structural integrity and playability things first.
Google my handle and you'll find the phone number to my shop.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:52 pm to Devious
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My grandfather left me his 1957 Martin.
And you couldnt be bothered to post pics?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:48 pm to Devious
Lucky guy. Treasure it and your memories w him.
Like others have said, I wouldn’t touch a thing. And post a pic if you get a chance.
Like others have said, I wouldn’t touch a thing. And post a pic if you get a chance.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:46 pm to Devious
Finally got some time for pics...noticed a few things. First, it's a '61 00-18, not a '57 00-16. Tired eyes when I looked it up earlier. Second, Paw Paw added a mic in the body which I'll remove at some point. Third, the tuners do not look original. I don't remember him changing them though.
Hoping to get to a point I can play it soon. I love the way it sounds. Just to add, I have no intentions of ever selling this thing. It's probably what my grandfather and I bonded most over.
Hoping to get to a point I can play it soon. I love the way it sounds. Just to add, I have no intentions of ever selling this thing. It's probably what my grandfather and I bonded most over.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:28 am to Devious
Those pics are just ok to judge “restoring “ it.
But from what I see I too wouldn’t touch it just get it looked at to see if anything is wrong beyond cosmetic.
Love that 50’s Martin headstock with the rounded corners.
But from what I see I too wouldn’t touch it just get it looked at to see if anything is wrong beyond cosmetic.
Love that 50’s Martin headstock with the rounded corners.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:39 am to Devious
From what I see, (can't tell much about the action or neck straightness from your photos), I wouldn't touch anything. Why do you want to remove the mic? Does it sound bad? It's already been installed and the hole for the jack has already been drilled out larger, may as well leave it and use it.
If you decide you want to trade it for a couple of goats or some chickens or something, let me know.
That's really a great guitar, congratulations
If you decide you want to trade it for a couple of goats or some chickens or something, let me know.
That's really a great guitar, congratulations
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:01 pm to Devious
Gotta say, leave the cosmetics, but get it playable like FS said.
I have a friend who had his moms J50 restored to playability. She used to play live on the radio with the Everly Brothers in Iowa.
I have a friend who had his moms J50 restored to playability. She used to play live on the radio with the Everly Brothers in Iowa.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:55 pm to Devious
please don't do any more than you absolutely have to, to this guitar.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:22 pm to 45acp
The owner and I have spoken by phone. He's bringing the guitar for an in-person inspection in the next few days. We will be doing as little as possible to the instrument from a structural standpoint. And nothing to alter or correct current cosmetic wear.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:37 am to Devious
quote:
I want someone to look it over for potential truss rod issues.
Just wait till he finds out how much a neck set will be And he will wish it was a truss rod issue
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:18 am to D Tide
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Just wait till he finds out how much a neck set will be And he will wish it was a truss rod issue
Hope he doesn't have that problem, maybe it's in good shape. Neck reset is serious money.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:31 am to auggie
From what I understand all old martins will eventually need a neck set
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:34 am to D Tide
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From what I understand all old martins will eventually need a neck set
I don't know for sure, but from what I have heard, at least Martins use a dovetail type neck joint, and is the easier type to do.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 5:13 pm to auggie
All old acoustic guitars in general will need a neck reset at some point in their lives. Simple physics ... you have a hollow box of thin wood, with a stick coming out of it, and stretched between the box and the stick are 140+ pounds of tension via tuned strings, 24/7, day in and day out, year after year after year. How they last as long as they do without succumbing to that is pretty amazing if you think about it.
That being said, not all old acoustics need neck resets if their action is high and they have no truss rod ... some may have never been properly set up in the first place, or still have areas where playability can be addressed. Case in point ... look at the excessive height of the saddle in the third picture. A saddle protruding that much from a bridge on even a brand new acoustic typically spells higher than desirable action.
That one photo tells me we can probably make incredible progress without any more intrusiveness than what would be typically considered routine set-up TLC. Fingers crossed.
That being said, not all old acoustics need neck resets if their action is high and they have no truss rod ... some may have never been properly set up in the first place, or still have areas where playability can be addressed. Case in point ... look at the excessive height of the saddle in the third picture. A saddle protruding that much from a bridge on even a brand new acoustic typically spells higher than desirable action.
That one photo tells me we can probably make incredible progress without any more intrusiveness than what would be typically considered routine set-up TLC. Fingers crossed.
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