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Music Videos and why they went away

Posted on 8/22/12 at 8:16 pm
Posted by contraryman
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 8:16 pm
I cant figure this out.

Just watched something new from a small band I like and thought it was well done and was very meaningful when mixed with song. I remember watching these when I was younger and understanding them as an art form that complimented the music. Did audiences just quit caring about them because MTV turned into a reality/shock/cartoon network.

120 minutes
Post Modern MTV
even Night Flight and others.

Those were good.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13879 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 9:40 pm to
MTV initially airs real world and other non-video programs. Ratings are better than videos. Rinse and repeat.
Posted by The Cable Guy
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 9:52 pm to
Yep, I look to Youtube for videos now. Although in all honesty when MTV kind of stopped airing videos, I sort of adapted unfortunately. I agree with your statement that the videos complimented the song.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 9:53 pm to
They can't get ratings on videos. Tune in for a minute, next song change it.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:41 am to
Even at the height of MTV's influence over music in the 1980s, their overall ratings were not that big. They did get a very desirable demo -- females between 14-24 (young people have lots of disposable income, and women are seen as more likely consumers).

It was only with the success of Real World and the advent of reality TV that MTV started getting big overall numbers, while keeping the same attractive-to-advertisers demo.

Some things must be accepted, like death and taxes. Reality TV is a regrettable but inevitable perfect storm -- it's very cheap to produce, and gets the desired female demo. It's the female sports.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 1:11 am to
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 1:12 am to
Butt-Head predicted this years ago

Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 6:34 am to
quote:

Some things must be accepted, like death and taxes. Reality TV is a regrettable but inevitable perfect storm -- it's very cheap to produce, and gets the desired female demo. It's the female sports.


Well put
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 6:38 am to
But I don't think music videos will disappear. They're a great entertainment medium. And there is always the chance of a video going viral. Would a song alone ever get passed around the internet as fast as "Dick in the box" did? Absolutely not.
Posted by lsuin92
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 7:23 am to
Just finished a great book about the creation of MTV, and it's influential impact in the 1980's... they also address how and why they started different kinds of programming in the late 80's and early 90's... it's a real good read if you grew up on MTV in the 80's.

I want my MTV
Posted by Flair Chops
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 7:36 am to
quote:

MTV turned into a reality/shock/cartoon network
it all started with the real world, imo
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 8:28 am to
that is the most stereotypical black video I have ever seen in my life.

Every time I see that video I laugh at how ridiculous.
Posted by contraryman
Earth
Member since Dec 2007
2144 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 8:39 am to
So is it fair to say that Reality Killed the Video Star?
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6587 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 8:52 am to
Not sure if you are joking or not, but Nelly is still pretty fun to listen too.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 9:03 am to
quote:

initially
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 9:14 am to
Man, Night Flight was awesome. It's how I saw Reefer Madness, old propaganda films, clips of cheezy b-movies, and music videos of obscure bands. What a great damn show.

Vidoes moved to youtube and a lot of bands still make creative videos. But on top of the reality show explanation, which is true, the bottom fell out of the music industry. We no longer have one shared top 40 -- the popular music today isn't very popular compared to previous eras. MTV demanded free product from the music industry, and the music industry is sick of giving away free product.
Posted by alajones
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Member since Oct 2005
35975 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 9:31 am to
If you have any kind of on demand cable you can probably find a lot of videos if you look for them.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 1:49 pm to
It's a question of economics. How does a music video increase an artist's income? They were an intersting form of art, but if they are not economically viable they will not be created.
Posted by Bueller?
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 2:11 pm to
Why do bands continue to make music videos when there isn't a major TV network broadcasting them? Are bands really getting enough exposure on YouTube, onDemand, and other web sites to justify the cost of making a video?
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Why do bands continue to make music videos when there isn't a major TV network broadcasting them? Are bands really getting enough exposure on YouTube, onDemand, and other web sites to justify the cost of making a video?


I think so. Next time you're watching a video on youtube, pay attention to the number of views. A popular song will have an obscene number of hits. Several million.

All of those youtube clips have links to itunes or amazon. I'm guessing they get clicked enough times to justify the cost of making the video, and in a lot of cases a lot more than that.
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