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The Silverback
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Led Zeppelin vs Journey
Is this a mismatch? Had someone try to compare the two, thought I’d bring the topic to the board.


Harry Caray
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
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Had someone try to compare the two
They were both bands, that's about it.


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Socrates Johnson
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
This seems like a failed litmus test to find out if this someone is worth being around.


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DyeHardDylan
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
There would be no Journey without Led Zeppelin.


cgrand
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
there would be no led zeppelin without jimmy page's parents


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ThePTExperience1969
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Member since Apr 2016
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
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Led Zeppelin vs Journey


LOL Get The Led Out, no contest, no argument, not up for debate BOW TO PAGEY AND GOLDEN GOD


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RabidTiger
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
I mean...one is one of the greatest bands of all time, and the other is a sad, dated act from the 80's.


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MorbidTheClown
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
please..... they aren't even on the same planet


Lawyered
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
Which is overplayed more.... Stairway or Don't Stop Believin?


MorbidTheClown
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
Stairway can never be overplayed


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hogfly
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
I honestly thought, after being absolutely raised on Zeppelin and them being my favorite band from about age 8-18, that I was done with them. I was just burnt out. Plus, they were always playing on classic rock stations and just seemed tired.

Then my son's School of Rock had one of their bands do a Zeppelin tribute for a season. It was absolutely fantastic and got me, and my kids, hooked on Zeppelin again. It also pointed out to me how much classic rock I've neglected with my kids.

They can tell you all about the National, the Avett Brothers, Sufjan Stevens, Arcade Fire and tons of other indie bands, but they didn't know shite about classic rock bands because I'd developed an antipathy to them after burning out on them in my youth and didn't really expose them to classic rock.

So... we've committed to exposing them to "great" bands and music as well as more indie listening.

As a return to topic. Journey will not be part of our curriculum. Best thing about that band was the video game I used to play in my local Piggly Wiggly.
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KiwiHead
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
You cannot compare the two and this should stop before the Gods of Rock are offended


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Ace Midnight
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
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Is this a mismatch?


Somewhat. In Journey's defense (Mrs. Midnight's favorite band, after all) - getting to the core issues:

The band itself is a branch off the Santana tree - Santana himself having picked Schon to be his second guitar player when Schon was FIFTEEN - that's badass no matter how you want to draw it up. Technically, no question he was a better player than Page - Page beats him only in innovation and songwriting, not actually playing the electric guitar.

Greg Rollie also came from Santana in forming Journey with Schon - underrated as a vocalist, this cat can flat out play the keyboards. Better then JPJ (for whom I have the highest regard as a multi-instrumentalist), he was both technically skilled and innovative. As good as the great keyboardists of the progressive rock outfits such as Pink Floyd, King Crimson, etc.

Smith is a highly regarded drummer, from a technical and innovative standpoint - perhaps not quite an elite drummer and certainly not a John Bonham (no one was), but definitely no slouch.

Valory on bass is an interesting proposition - again, I think underrated, but not the bass player that JPJ is - Valory, though, a capable utility player (also a multi-instrumentalist like JPJ and the next guy on our list)

Cain (Rollie's replacement) - a capable utility player, his value is more as a songwriter than on the instruments, although he is a very good piano/keyboard player and serviceable on guitar, his and Perry's songwriting partnership is one of the most commercially successful of that era, period.

Perry - fantastic lead vocalist (in his prime) - elite, even, should be in the same category as Mercury and Delp, although probably a little behind both overall. Not quite as clear a high as Delp, not quite the range of Mercury, but an extremely capable and expressive voice for a rock singer.

So, it is likely that Zeppelin wins - both bands were prolific with very loyal fans - Zeppelin fans probably skew heavily male, particularly as they aged out of their productive period. Zeppelin was middle of the range hard rock, Journey was more of a mainstream rock act, with pop sensibilities.

But, from a pure musical standpoint, it isn't a huge mismatch - the only clear advantages Zeppelin has on delivery is the rhythm section, which is an advantage they have over almost anybody from the Golden Age of rock and roll, to present. The rest of it comes down to taste. Zeppelin's songs are likely to be more enduring, at least in quantity - difficult to imagine a future where folks still listen to Stairway, but not to Don't Stop Believin' though, so there's all of that.
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Tigertown in ATL
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
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Ace Midnight


Best poster on the music board. Bringing substance and not just rhetoric and laugh-ey faces.



parrotdr
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
I agree that Ace gave a great review, but no matter how detailed your analysis, no matter how loyal you are to Mrs. Midnight , no matter which way you cut it, it's still a HUGE mismatch.

Zep.

What's next, the Beatles or Styx?
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hogcard1964
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
Journey ripped off far less musicians.

A more apt comparison would be:

Led Zeppelin vs. Milli Vinilli
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randybobandy
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
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no question he was a better player than Page
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this cat can flat out play the keyboards. Better then JPJ


No and hell NO! Schon couldn't hold Page's jock, and Rolle would piss himself if he even met JPJ....


One band is a bubblegum pop band with some fun chorus' to sing along with, mostly by teenage girls born in the 60's and 70's..........the other is probably the most influential blues/rock bands in the history of hard rock.
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KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
6546 posts

re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
This is a pretty fair critique. I hold Schon in the highest regard as a guitar player....the rest of the band save Perry,was good but Smith really could not hold a candle to Bonham....sometimes I think that Bonham and the drums were one.

Where Zeppelin blows Journey and for that matter anyone else away was the studio innovation and that falls squarely on the shoulders of Page and JPJ. Some of the stuff they did was so amazing, that even good to great bands today are still trying to catch up. Some of their production techniques still make you wonder how they did that at the time given the technology

I might get skewered for this, but I think that in his prime, Perry had a better set of pipes than Plant. Plant was more bluesy .
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litenin
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Houston
Member since Mar 2016
975 posts

re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
Zeppelin is one of my favorite all-time bands yet I could never really get into Journey.

I just started reading Hammer of the Gods about Zeppelin and it starts with giving an overview of the British mix with US blues, with Page obviously being in the middle of it all. I think that this blues influence along with Bonham's unique style gives Zeppelin a sound that is very different than Journey or anyone else that came after them.


carnuba
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Member since Jan 2009
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re: Led Zeppelin vs Journey
as a not so hugh fan of either band
it's led zepplin, and not even close


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