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Keith Moon & John Entwistle vs. John Bonham & John Paul Jones
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:16 am
Two of the very greatest rhythm sections in rock history. Both anchored legendary rock bands in The Who and Led Zeppelin.
Tough call, but I think Live at Leeds puts Moon and Entwistle over the top. Also out of all four musicians Entwistle is the most talented at his instrument.
Tough call, but I think Live at Leeds puts Moon and Entwistle over the top. Also out of all four musicians Entwistle is the most talented at his instrument.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:24 am to HeadyBrosevelt
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Tough call, but I think Live at Leeds puts Moon and Entwistle over the top.
Great show, but I'm not sure that overwhelms the duo that was Bonham and Jones.
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Also out of all four musicians Entwistle is the most talented at his instrument.
I'll probably concede this, although it is close. Clearly he's a better bass player than Jones (and, to be fair, Jones' is the finest musician of the four - can play anything that makes noise - and can play 2 instruments at the same time). But, Bonham is one of the most talented and complete drummers in history. He wasn't particularly fancy on the fills, but as a frustrated former drummer myself, his ability across the spectrum is seldom approached - there are solid drummers and there are innovative drummers - but they are rarely in the same skin.
Moon is a different discussion entirely - not a true "drummer" - at least not in a rock/pop/jazz sense - he was far more of a keyboard player who used drums instead - certainly for what he provided to the mix.
Which brings us full circle to Entwistle - not only did he have to supply the bass groove - he was primarily responsible for keeping time, as well, as his "drummer" was a lunatic who did everything except keep time on the kit.
(Two wonderful rhythm sections, no doubt, two of the very best of all time.)
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:26 am to HeadyBrosevelt
In my opinion,
The Who>Led Zeppelin
Come at me, yawl
The Who>Led Zeppelin
Come at me, yawl
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:26 am to HeadyBrosevelt
Bonham > Moon by a very, very thin margin. Two pretty different drumming styles, though. Both were a huge part of the development of my musical tastes.
Entwistle > John Paul Jones by a pretty large margin IMHO. Jones was fairly versatile though.
Entwistle > John Paul Jones by a pretty large margin IMHO. Jones was fairly versatile though.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:31 am to Ace Midnight
somebody PM me when this becomes a "Whatever you think about Rush, Noel Poot is the greatest drummer of all time" thread
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:35 am to Kafka
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"Whatever you think about Rush, Noel Poot is the greatest drummer of all time"
Do you mean Neil Peart?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:37 am to Ace Midnight
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Tough call, but I think Live at Leeds puts Moon and Entwistle over the top.
Great show, but I'm not sure that overwhelms the duo that was Bonham and Jones.
I consider their studio output very close. I just think that The Who was much better live, and Live at Leeds is the best example of that.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:38 am to Spaulding Smails
quote:who?
Do you mean Neil Peart?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:42 am to Kafka
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somebody PM me when this becomes a "Whatever you think about Rush, Noel Poot is the greatest drummer of all time" thread
Since nobody was doing that (until you mentioned the R-word and the P-name) - remember the other day when you asked me for a good example of irony?
This is it.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:47 am to Ace Midnight
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remember the other day when you asked me for a good example of irony?
Ironically, I don't remember ever doing that
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:49 am to Kafka
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Kafka
Why did you even enter this thread? You've brought a whole lot to the table thus far.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:51 am to HeadyBrosevelt
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Tough call, but I think Live at Leeds puts Moon and Entwistle over the top.
I'll agree, but I like The Who a lot more than LZ (Who arent really my thing)
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:51 am to lsu2006
quote:I'm in a down-to-the-wire race with Heady for Unofficial Voice Of The Music Board
Why did you even enter this thread?
vote early and vote often
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:52 am to HeadyBrosevelt
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I consider their studio output very close.
You mean LZ's studio output vs. The Who's? I can't really get behind that, but Live at Leeds is one of my favorite albums of all time, live or studio.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:56 am to lsu2006
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You mean LZ's studio output vs. The Who's?
Nah, strictly comparing the two rhythm sections on each studio album.
eta: I didn't want to go for the tried and true Led Zeppelin vs. The Who debate, but rather focus on this specific part.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:01 am to TFTC
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I'll agree, but I like The Who a lot more than LZ (Who arent really my thing)
Do you just hate good music or something?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:01 am to HeadyBrosevelt
The Who sux
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:07 am to REG861
quote:I guess I do, since I don't like LZ
Do you just hate good music or something?
I think I'll write a song about it
"The one thing Zep could never steal was my heart..."
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:09 am to danman6336
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The Who sux
I hope you aren't basing that off of Phish covering Quadrophenia for Halloween '95. Or the subsequent covers of "Drowned"
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:09 am to HeadyBrosevelt
If ever I was going to say it's a wash, this is it. I think Ace critiqued this very well. Entwistle was definitely a beast on bass, but JPJ's versatility was astounding. Both drummers were great with differing styles. It may come down to someone's personal preference on this one.
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