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re: Grateful Dead "American Beauty" and "Workingman's Dead"
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:04 pm to Vidic
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:04 pm to Vidic
quote:I've always been a huge fan of live music so the Dead are manna from heaven for me. Once I listened to a lot of live music I then circled back to their studio albums. Its simply amazing how the studio versions morphed into an infinite array of live music that evolved over time.
Listen live. Have your life changed
Long Live the Dead
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 10:05 pm
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 6:08 am to Vidic
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Listen live. Have your life changed
I warned my small town Oklahoma girlfriend once that The Dead will change your life. She wasn’t a head at the time but we did go see them together in DC at RFK in 1992.
We broke up many years ago and lost track of each other. Fast forward to Dead Co in Dallas 2019. I ran into her in a concession stand line with her husband and kids. She actually said to me after hugs and handshakes , “you told me. they would change my life. “
Posted on 4/1/23 at 10:38 am to Got Blaze
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Robert Hunter was an amazing lyricist who had an incredible way with words
I agree - he has some amazing lyrics.
Posted on 4/1/23 at 10:41 am to Got Blaze
I have not come across Terrapin Station.
Posted on 4/1/23 at 10:50 am to Funky Tide 8
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What caused you to dislike the Dead previously? What kind of music do you like in general?
Dad would play Bear's Choice and another album I haven't come across yet and the songs just didn't do anything for me. I also didn't care for the production values.
I like all kinds of music with the exception of bro country (and with country, I'm hit and miss) and most heavy metal. I like listening to technically skilled musicians as well as "listenable music." I also like old music, 80's and back.
I play the piano all the time, so I love songs with good keyboard work. I love listening to good bass guitar.
Posted on 4/1/23 at 12:27 pm to yoga girl
My little brother is a Dead Head and half got me I to Them.
But idk if I get The live stuff. Even on drugs
But idk if I get The live stuff. Even on drugs
Posted on 4/2/23 at 5:53 pm to rutiger
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In the dark has some great songs, but they all sound better live.
Well better live while you are live at the concert?
I’ve wanted to get into their stuff but the live stuff on recording imo sounds dated as all get up.
And my first time I got tickets to a dead show it got canceled. So I’ve never actually seen them live.
I tend to not like live versions of most bands when listening to a recording, so it’s not just the dead.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:31 pm to dgnx6
I would like to have seen the Grateful Dead live when Jerry Garcia was alive but I was a little kid when he died. I know some bands are much better live.
I was born too late - a lot of bands I would have loved to see live but they are either gone, play live with only one or two original members, etc.
I saw Bob Seger live. His concert was amazing. It was supposed to be his last tour, but I hope he goes out again.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 12:51 pm to yoga girl
see if your dad has any JGB music (Jerry Garcia Band). 
Some of these recordings are phenomenal and will give you a better appreciation of Garcia and how talented he was. EVERY show was recorded off the soundboards as CD releases are amazing. Chillin' to some JGB with Melvin seals on the Hammond B3 and the backup singers will take your mind and listening experience to a whole new level. There are times when I prefer listening to JGB over the GD, as I've seen both dozens of times. ... FYI - Jerry's custom guitars weighed from 12 - 14 lbs as most guitars weigh from 7 - 8 lbs.
JGB at Shoreline 1990 .. video should start around Dear Prudence ... incredibly moving when witnessed/heard live
2nd that, Waiting, & Tangled are also great covers
0:00 Intro
0:15 How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)
7:45 Stop That Train
15:30 Dear Prudence
27:45 I Shall Be Released
36:25 Run For The Roses
42:15 My Sisters And Brothers
46:20 Deal
56:06 I Second That Emotion
1:04:12 Think
1:11:35 And It Stoned Me
1:18:30 Waiting For A Miracle
1:24:40 Don't Let Go
1:40:35 That Lucky Old Sun
1:52:33 Tangled Up In Blue
2:05:40 Band interview at Warfield
2:29:00 Robert Hunter Interview
2:36:53 Bonus footage
Some of these recordings are phenomenal and will give you a better appreciation of Garcia and how talented he was. EVERY show was recorded off the soundboards as CD releases are amazing. Chillin' to some JGB with Melvin seals on the Hammond B3 and the backup singers will take your mind and listening experience to a whole new level. There are times when I prefer listening to JGB over the GD, as I've seen both dozens of times. ... FYI - Jerry's custom guitars weighed from 12 - 14 lbs as most guitars weigh from 7 - 8 lbs.
JGB at Shoreline 1990 .. video should start around Dear Prudence ... incredibly moving when witnessed/heard live
2nd that, Waiting, & Tangled are also great covers 0:00 Intro
0:15 How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)
7:45 Stop That Train
15:30 Dear Prudence
27:45 I Shall Be Released
36:25 Run For The Roses
42:15 My Sisters And Brothers
46:20 Deal
56:06 I Second That Emotion
1:04:12 Think
1:11:35 And It Stoned Me
1:18:30 Waiting For A Miracle
1:24:40 Don't Let Go
1:40:35 That Lucky Old Sun
1:52:33 Tangled Up In Blue
2:05:40 Band interview at Warfield
2:29:00 Robert Hunter Interview
2:36:53 Bonus footage
Posted on 4/4/23 at 1:01 pm to Got Blaze
Thank you for the recommendation. I don't think there is any Jerry Garcia Band.
I will check your linke out tonight.
I will check your linke out tonight.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 1:23 pm to Got Blaze
I listened to "Lucky Old Sun" as it is one of my favorite songs. It was nicely done.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:30 pm to Got Blaze
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Some of these recordings are phenomenal and will give you a better appreciation of Garcia and how talented he was. EVERY show was recorded off the soundboards as CD releases are amazing. Chillin' to some JGB with Melvin seals on the Hammond B3 and the backup singers will take your mind and listening experience to a whole new level. There are times when I prefer listening to JGB over the GD, as I've seen both dozens of times. ... FYI - Jerry's custom guitars weighed from 12 - 14 lbs as most guitars weigh from 7 - 8 lbs.
Man im listening and its just times i cant hear or understand a fricking thing he is singing. thats what im kid of talking about. to each their own i guess.
oh and this is the first comment....
Daniel Shade
1 year ago
God this is something boring as anything conceived by man. Not even trying once to hit a note on vocals. Horrible balance of instruments same tempo no dynamics just half interested rip offs of lots of somebody else’s
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 4/7/23 at 3:02 pm to yoga girl
Sorry you missed them live. I was late to the game but managed to see 64 shows from 7/6/87 to 7/29/94. There is nothing like a Grateful Dead concert.
Just to tie it into this thread, I was lucky enough to catch them play Ripple to close the show at the Capitol Centre in Landover, MD on 9/3/88. They played it by request for some kid from the Make-A-Wish Foundation. It was the first time they played it since 10/16/81. It was the first time they played it electric since 4/29/71. It was also the last time they ever performed it live. I was still fairly new to the band and didn’t know what a huge bust-out it was. But I knew the song and was excited to hear it. I saw nothing but smiling faces as we left the arena. (They also played Box of Rain to open the second set. Those were the only tunes from either Workingman’s or American Beauty they played that night.
Ripple - Landover, MD - 9/3/88
Just to tie it into this thread, I was lucky enough to catch them play Ripple to close the show at the Capitol Centre in Landover, MD on 9/3/88. They played it by request for some kid from the Make-A-Wish Foundation. It was the first time they played it since 10/16/81. It was the first time they played it electric since 4/29/71. It was also the last time they ever performed it live. I was still fairly new to the band and didn’t know what a huge bust-out it was. But I knew the song and was excited to hear it. I saw nothing but smiling faces as we left the arena. (They also played Box of Rain to open the second set. Those were the only tunes from either Workingman’s or American Beauty they played that night.
Ripple - Landover, MD - 9/3/88
This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 4/7/23 at 5:08 pm to Treacherous Cretin
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Treacherous Cretin
Cool story and another great example of what made them so special. You never knew when the stars would align and magic would visit.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 1:44 pm to Crow Pie
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Once I listened to a lot of live music I then circled back to their studio albums. Its simply amazing how the studio versions morphed into an infinite array of live music that evolved over time.
It's actually backwards, and part of what made the Dead totally unique. The Dead played their songs live before albums would be made. They would experiment with what worked, refine it again and again. Once they got a group a new songs, they would make an album, which was always a challenge because many of their songs couldn't fit into the 2.5-4 minute limit for radio.
It's just a total inversion of the typical business model for making records and promoting new albums where a record would be made, and then the artists would go on tour to promote that record. But that's just how the Dead did it.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 1:59 pm to Got Blaze
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here are times when I prefer listening to JGB over the GD, as I've seen both dozens of times
After Brent died, Jerry just sort of mentally disengaged from the Dead, with the exception of the times Bruce played with the band. JGBs fall 91 tour was the sickest run of shows I have ever seen. The bitter irony was that John Kahn was Jerry's heroin buddy.
Hampton 91
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:05 am to Ten Bears
Worcester was arguably the best of those...but yeah a great later tour. Oh, and the Hartford Deal..my oh my.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:59 pm to Ten Bears
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The Dead played their songs live before albums would be made. They would experiment with what worked, refine it again and again. Once they got a group a new songs, they would make an album, which was always a challenge because many of their songs couldn't fit into the 2.5-4 minute limit for radio.
Thanks for sharing, that is an interesting story.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:03 pm to Mizooag94
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Worcester was arguably the best of those.
They’re just always something special about Hampton shows. Whether it’s Jerry busting out Wolf, surprise shows, formerly known as the “warlocks” shows. Small venue but boy did it pack a punch.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:40 am to Treacherous Cretin
I bought the sheet music to "Brokedown Palace". I like the lyrics. I played the song (in a different key) and sang along last night.
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