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re: Grammy winner Jeff Tweedy to direct royalties to reparations fund in hometown Chicago.

Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Oxford Comma
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:03 pm to
In my opinion, this story is really about philanthropy, altruism, and community betterment.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:50 pm to
Actually it’s about white guilt, virtue signaling and attention seeking. Hence the publicity surrounding his decision to donate 5% of his royalties to wronged musicians of a bygone era. In my opinion, judging by the optics of popular music of today, these past atrocities has already corrected themselves.
Posted by MobileJosh
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 3:18 pm to
Tweedy...what an insufferable douche bag
Posted by kage
ATL
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 3:19 pm to
He's been talking about this for a while. This article is from last June.

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Tweedy opened his statement by noting that the modern music industry is “built almost entirely on black art” and that “the wealth that rightfully belonged to black artists was stolen outright and to this day continues to grow outside their communities.” He went on to effectively call for reparations for decades of music industry exploitation and the creation of “some initiative that would allow us all to redirect a portion of our revenue to the communities that have been deprived of it.”
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 3:32 pm to
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the modern music industry is “built almost entirely on black art” and that “the wealth that rightfully belonged to black artists was stolen outright and to this day continues to grow outside their communities.” He went on to effectively call for reparations for decades of music industry exploitation
Did he give examples?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 3:57 pm to
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In my opinion, this story is really about philanthropy, altruism, and community betterment.
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Oxford Comma
You're not needed
Posted by Stagliano
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:02 pm to
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Actually it’s about white guilt, virtue signaling and attention seeking. Hence the publicity surrounding his decision to donate 5% of his royalties to wronged musicians of a bygone era.


This guy gets it

For those who weren't aware, there's been an over-reaching narrative in the last few years that record labels are.. you guessed it, "racist" for the contracts historically given to black entertainers. Not, mind you, that it's one of the seediest, corrupt industries in America. Akin to organized crime

But the industry has bled dry and broken 1000s of entertainers of every color for decades and decades. Only now in the era of "equity" is it racist towards a particular group because artists aren't given ownership stake in the label or streaming service

I listen to several rap podcasts from time to time. I've heard alot about this believe me


Has Isbell publicly out-virtued him yet by giving 50% ?
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:49 pm to
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Tweedy opened his statement by noting that the modern music industry is “built almost entirely on black art” and that “the wealth that rightfully belonged to black artists was stolen outright and to this day continues to grow outside their communities.” He went on to effectively call for reparations for decades of music industry exploitation and the creation of “some initiative that would allow us all to redirect a portion of our revenue to the communities that have been deprived of it.”


5% of his royalties going forward? What is that? How much is that, Jeff?

By this rationale, Jeff, you should give them all past, present and furture royalties, you thief.

And 5%? Really? Wow! Why not 10%? Is 5% good enough for them, Jeff? Is that how you feel about it? Is that after taxes or before taxes? I'm sure you will get the write-off, Jeff. This is probably calculated by your accountant to get you just into a lower tax bracket.

How about you go out there and teach these folks how to negotiate a contract and play music, Jeff? Instead you just throw a little money at them. Teach a man to fish, Jeff.

As stated above-this is nothing but a virtue signal, and a piss poor one at that, by an overweight, washed-up has-been.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 6:57 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:26 pm to
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washed-up has-been.


2021 Grammy Award winning, washed up, has-been..
Posted by Stagliano
Member since Dec 2020
1653 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:34 pm to
Yeah grammys have always been the leading metric for musical success lol
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:41 pm to
Oh, I hear ya... I was just laughing at that long winded response..
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:44 pm to
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2021 Grammy Award winning, washed up, has-been..


And that means what?

This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 6:54 pm
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:55 pm to
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Oh, I hear ya... I was just laughing at that long winded response..


I didn’t have my afternoon coffee. Jeff Titty deserves the long-winded response.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:38 pm to
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5% of his royalties going forward? What is that? How much is that, Jeff?

By this rationale, Jeff, you should give them all past, present and furture royalties, you thief.

And 5%? Really? Wow! Why not 10%? Is 5% good enough for them, Jeff? Is that how you feel about it? Is that after taxes or before taxes? I'm sure you will get the write-off, Jeff. This is probably calculated by your accountant to get you just into a lower tax bracket.

How about you go out there and teach these folks how to negotiate a contract and play music, Jeff? Instead you just throw a little money at them. Teach a man to fish, Jeff.


This is part of the problem with reparations. How much is enough? If "a significant portion" of the music industry is built on AA contributions - I'm not sure 5% is significant payback.

Secondly, EVERYThING is influenced by EVERYTHING, trying to isolate this down to "Race" or a time period or anything is a futile exercise.

AA culture may have brought over African music, but the Blue used a guitar, which is of Moorish origin, brought to Spain and perfected into the guitar (or at least Europe). So, because the Blues is also supremely influenced by the guitar, how far back do we go?

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:46 pm to
There is literally no escape from this horseshite now - film, television, sports, music, the fricking grocery store.

This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Stagliano
Member since Dec 2020
1653 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 5:18 am to
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This is part of the problem with reparations. How much is enough? If "a significant portion" of the music industry is built on AA contributions - I'm not sure 5% is significant payback.


The real question is when are some people going to mature past the moronic notion that because an industry or business profits from you, the same way they do everyone else, you deserve ownership. Watch for this ideology to hit peak stupidity in sports soon. When theres a massive free agent signing and a franchise is "racist" for not offering 2-5% of the franchise instead of just 40-50mil a year
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1336 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 6:10 am to
You are spot on. Full stop. Mic dropped.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
11302 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 6:51 am to
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And 5%? Really? Wow! Why not 10%?


Should be at least 13%.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 6:59 am to
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Grammy winner Jeff Tweedy to direct royalties to reparations

Good for him....I'm not with my song "Go frick Yourself Today"
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:10 am to
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not sure where the anger comes from


They view any mention of reparations, systemic racism, etc., as a personal attack. It's why they deflect with the "white guilt" and "virtue signaling" labels.
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