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Posted on 5/1/12 at 7:57 am to TheDoc
What part of being a musician is a profession does your feeble mind not comprehend?
Anyone who plays sings or writes music for a living is a musician.
Anyone who plays sings or writes music for a living is a musician.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 7:59 am to Cdawg
quote:
She's an artist, just not one to your preference.
I think it is necessary for an artist to create. If she doesn't write then I don't consider her an artist. If she does write then I was wrong
Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:00 am to TheDoc
quote:So acapella is not music?
Yeah, I don't consider a voice an musical instrument.
If you are saying that this isn't music, then you are invalid to all discussions regarding music.
This post was edited on 5/1/12 at 8:06 am
Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:02 am to Roaad
quote:Does she make music?
Do you consider Britney Spears a "musician"?
If she does, and she assuredly does, she is a musician.
Stupid question is stupid.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:13 am to Roaad
The Doc says,
Whitney Houston, Adele, and Celine Dion are not musicians. . .
. . .but a guy that plays the washboard, kazoo, or spoons are totally musicians.
Whitney Houston, Adele, and Celine Dion are not musicians. . .
. . .but a guy that plays the washboard, kazoo, or spoons are totally musicians.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:16 am to Roaad
If this voice is not an instrument, then the sky is not blue, a bear doesnt shite in the woods, the pope aint Catholic, etc etc etc. TheDoc is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Sarah Vaughan
eta: Check out the improv skills of this non-musician (a la Coltrane or Miles) at 1:10 here.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Sarah Vaughan
eta: Check out the improv skills of this non-musician (a la Coltrane or Miles) at 1:10 here.
This post was edited on 5/1/12 at 8:21 am
Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:18 am to Roaad
Oh you didn't see?
Doc is the final authority on music terms. He didn't like the definition of musician so he changed it
The shitty local bands he tirelessly praises are most certainly musicians though.....
Doc is the final authority on music terms. He didn't like the definition of musician so he changed it
The shitty local bands he tirelessly praises are most certainly musicians though.....
Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:36 am to CottonWasKing
Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:44 am to TheDoc
quote:
TheDoc
I know you're not a dumb guy, but geez this is stupid. I mean if you were Wynton Marsalis I could almost understand where you're coming from, although I would still disagree. But, honestly, come on . . .
Posted on 5/1/12 at 9:22 am to TheDoc
quote:
Not at all. I've already stated that there is a difference between singers/vocalists and musicians. Just because you have vocal cords does not make you a musician, or you could label everyone a musician.
I don't think anyone is claiming that a musician is someone who possesses or plays a musical instrument alone (including vocals). . . It is really quite simple to understand if you can get past your stubborn way of thinking.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:56 am to TheDoc
quote:Just because you own a guitar, doesn't make you a musician.
Just because you have vocal cords does not make you a musician, or you could label everyone a musician.
A singer/vocalist is someone who has learned to play their instrument.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:41 pm to Roaad
quote:
A singer/vocalist is someone who has learned to play their instrument.
Just because someone sings doesn't make them a musician.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:44 pm to CottonWasKing
quote:
Doc is the final authority on music terms. He didn't like the definition of musician so he changed it
I think the definition that you used is very loose and isn't very accurate.
quote:.
The shitty local bands he tirelessly praises are most certainly musicians though....
What band is shitty that I talked about?
And yes, they are musicians. They play instruments and write songs.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:47 pm to TheDoc
she is barely a singer
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:14 pm to TheDoc
quote:
oh, so everyone is a musician then?
They can be
It's not a very exclusive category
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:36 am to TheDoc
quote:I can pick up a guitar right now and strum the strings.
Just because someone sings doesn't make them a musician.
That doesn't make me a guitarist.
A singer is someone who has learned to play an instrument, their voice, in such a manner that it makes music.
Someone that makes music is a musician. . .by definition.
Therefore, a singer is a musician, by definition.
It isn't rocket surgery.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:08 am to TheDoc
Doc, your definition of "musician" is something that has been warped over time to refer to someone who is good at playing a physical musical instrument. This is not really accurate. What you keep referring to is an instrumentalist. Music can be made without physical instruments. It may not be the music that you like, but the definition of a word doesn't depend on your personal preferences, which you seem to imply that it does. The root of the word musician is MUSIC. You'd be foolish to argue that it means something else.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:25 am to SUB
If I have a person that sings in my band and they don't write the songs, they don't play, and only sing, I don't consider them a musician.
That's my opinion.
That's my opinion.
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