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re: Beato further roasts the NYT for their dumb Top 30 Songwriter list

Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:52 am to
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20010 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:52 am to
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Stephen Merritt? No.
gonna disagree

i’m pretty sure he’s on the list only because he’s gay, but he is a brilliant songwriter - i would definitely put him in the top 30

ETA: gives me an opportunity to repost this YooToobs classic:



This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 11:42 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:52 pm to
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There are literally hundreds of better living American songwriters than Bad Bunny.
My argument is that Bad Bunny isn't even good...for what he is!

I understand the mindset of waiting to avoid a "rockism" bias. I agree that not everything has to be white male singer/songwriter genre, and to make it so, probably necessarily excludes a lot of people.

However, I won't consider ANYONE to be on such a list if they aren't writing actual music. If they are just setting lyrics to pre-programmed beats, that does not count.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13136 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:07 am to
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Neil Young born in Canada but is an American citizen now.


It's dual citizenship, though, and he's moved back to Canada. And had this to say a few months ago:

“Although I have lived in the United States for most of my life, and recently became a citizen of the U.S.A., I am a Canadian and always will be" - Neil Young

He's easily a top 10 song writer, and if he were saying that he considers himself to be American then I'd put him on the list. But with this comment it's hard to justify classifying him as an American.

ETA: Really fun video by Beato. The fact that the NYT thought releasing their video was a good idea shows just how out of touch that culture is.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 11:10 am
Posted by MKP2004
Member since Mar 2026
309 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 8:09 pm to
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Kendrick Lamar, Bad Bunny, Missy Elliot, Jay Z, Outkast, Romeo Santos, Mariah Carey and Young Thug>Billy Joel, Jimmy Webb, John Hiatt and James Taylor

Add Henley and Fogerty to the second part of that list
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 8:12 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20023 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 1:44 pm to
I agree
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16989 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 2:40 pm to
Actually H-D-H do not belong on the list because it is a list of living American songwriters and Dozier died a couple of years ago.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35553 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:48 pm to
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Like "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" bad.


But not quite "Rolling Stone Top Guitarists" bad

That was perhaps the worst ranking list in the history of ranking lists.
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